re:Who Cares? Competition is highly over rated!

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re:Who Cares? Competition is highly over rated!

Chris Vancil — 8/5/2003 6:50:11 AM (archived)

Look Rich, I doubt very much that your "competition" would have the intended results. I don't believe your claims.

I don't work for Lockheed nor do I have any of their stock.

I'm interested in not wasting a perfectly good Lander body and Phoenix has a really cool set of experiments on board. It will be doing more science over a longer period than the other possible scout missions. On the science packages as MECA has been mentioned around here a bit I assume you know about it. Well it is on board! Checkout these pages:

http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/

http://phoenix.lpl.arizona.edu/phoenix_project_payload_listing.htm

--Chris Vancil

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And the Mars Scout Mission is...The Phoenix Lander! - Chris Vancil - 8/4/2003 9:57:38 PM
- Has anyone got a link to a list of the instruments that will be flown? (n/t) - alcaray - 8/5/2003 3:27:11 PM
  - re: Has anyone got a link to a list of the instruments that will be flown? - Chris Vancil - 8/5/2003 6:51:02 PM
    - Sweet! Thanks! (n/t) - alcaray - 8/5/2003 9:39:55 PM
  - ARES Mars plane WON'T be flown, thanks to Lockheed's Mars monopoly (n/t) (n/t) - NASAWatch.INFO - 8/5/2003 3:37:11 PM
    - Mars atmospheric sample return was also nixed in favor of Lockheed - NASAWatch.INFO - 8/5/2003 5:04:05 PM
      - re: Yes there were four missions and before that there were 20 some odd studies... - Chris Vancil - 8/5/2003 7:05:44 PM
        
        Lockheed doesn't want competition any more than Microsoft or TelMex do... - NASAWatch.INFO - 8/5/2003 8:15:22 PM
- NASA's Mars scout mission was COMPETED? Lockheed won again. - NASAWatch.INFO - 8/4/2003 11:27:06 PM
  - re: It's called the Phoenix for a reason... - Chris Vancil - 8/4/2003 11:49:31 PM
    - Lockheed keeps winning the Mars contracts while others remain on the sideline$... - NASAWatch.INFO - 8/5/2003 1:07:47 AM
      - re: Lockheed keeps winning the Mars contracts while others remain on the sideline$... - Kim Keller - 8/5/2003 7:39:26 PM
        
        MER 1 & 2 were govt. built, with subcontracts going to LockMart - NASAWatch.INFO - 8/5/2003 8:09:29 PM
      - re:Who Cares? Competition is highly over rated! - Chris Vancil - 8/5/2003 6:50:11 AM
        
        Lockmart - a symptom of NASA's many problems - phil - 8/5/2003 12:46:59 PM
        
        You can't really compare the Viking missions with current ones - Larry J - 8/5/2003 6:09:41 PM
        
        Airbags and landing sites - Nick Hoffman - 8/6/2003 7:08:16 AM
        
        With luck, you won't be dependent on NASA for your Mars data - E.P. Grondine - 8/6/2003 4:25:01 PM
        
        Scientific data from NASA is evil! - alcaray - 8/6/2003 10:05:28 PM
        
        No its not: it's simply biased - E.P. Grondine - 8/8/2003 4:23:17 PM
        
        techincal info (and specs of the instrument that recorded it) are not biased - alcaray - 8/8/2003 4:39:09 PM
        
        Why did NASA not reimage Hoffman's active CO2 vents? - E.P. Grondine - 8/8/2003 5:13:49 PM
        
        Why NASA DID reimage my active CO2 flows - nick Hoffman - 8/9/2003 4:22:00 AM
        
        re: Why NASA DID reimage my active CO2 flows - UM - 8/10/2003 7:28:09 PM
        
        re: Same reason they didn't go back and re-image the "face" until it was extremely convenient, I would guess - alcaray - 8/8/2003 6:31:27 PM
        
        I'm sure Nick will be delighted to here that active CO2 flows have no more reality than the "face" - E.P. Grondine - 8/8/2003 7:09:07 PM
        
        And all this without proof... - Chris Vancil - 8/8/2003 10:34:53 PM
        
        Why won't NASA simply offer competitive prizes, rather than reward the most corrupt lobbyists? - NASAWatch.INFO - 8/5/2003 7:00:54 PM
        
        re: You can't really compare the Viking missions with current ones - phil - 8/5/2003 6:27:53 PM
        
        Prices decline with time, unless NASA's involved... - Unflattering Mirror - 8/7/2003 4:50:37 PM
        
        You are wrong - alcaray - 8/7/2003 5:24:39 PM
        
        re: You are wrong - UM - 8/8/2003 2:36:56 AM
        
        Which country has bidding that is more competetive than the US? (n/t) - alcaray - 8/8/2003 4:22:13 PM
        
        Do you think the USA has genuinely competitive bidding? (n/t) - UM - 8/9/2003 3:11:43 AM
        
        re: Do you think the USA has genuinely competitive bidding? - UM - 8/10/2003 12:05:33 AM
        
        re: Do you think the USA has genuinely competitive bidding? - alcaray - 8/11/2003 4:12:08 PM
        
        Not as much as it may seem... - Larry J - 8/5/2003 9:04:14 PM
        
        Haven't NASA's astronomical observatories improved due to competition with NSF? - NASAWatch.INFO - 8/5/2003 7:04:35 PM

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