Fox wrote: "Lucky for us, we still (so far) live in a constitutional democratic republic. We have elections. What happens to us is still up to us"

Hmmm. Yes. and the bitch of the whole thing is that the blood is on my hands too. As I told RobVG: thats where the anger comes from.

Fox wrote: "Realistically, it doesn't make a neutrino's worth of difference what anyone says here, in the Zone. "

I disagree. I think what is said here on the Zone is more important than what the army of bobbleheads have to say.

As an athiest, scientist and philosopher, I believe first and last in the Human and in Reason. Here, on the web, is the last stand of the Forum, of where reason should triumph. The habitablezone is the closest I have found to this ideal, despite the few mud-slinging fu@&nuts who replce insult with argument.

Man does not live by reason alone, nor should he, but when life and death and the ceasation of the lives of other people is on the line, reason should be the ONLY touchstone of import.

Davin L.