But I wonder where the palestinians would be without the terrorists. I appreciate that this is a topic that you will not wish to explore.

Without anti-Israeli Arabs using them exclusively for cannon fodder for the last two generations, it's entirely possible they would be Jordanians, Israelis, Saudis, Lebanese, Egyptians, or whatever, and living normal lives. These people have been painstakingly and deliberately isolated, trapped in refugee camps for decades, assigned second-class status in Arab nations, and molded into the angry and desperate living weapons they now are. Their one purpose: serve the agenda of many Arab nations of eliminating the nation of Israel.

Ever wonder why Lebanese militants are not bombing Syrian facilities and people? Syria is occupying Lebanon. Ever wonder why Palestinians are not bombing Jordanian people? The borders of the Palestinian Mandate after the San Remo Conference in 1920 occupied a considerable part of what is now Jordan. Heck, in our own lifetimes, Jordan owned the West Bank lock, stock and barrel. Why didn't they immediately sign it over to the Palestinians as a homeland? If the concern of the Arab world was really over the well-being of the Palestinian people, many things would have been done differently over the past fifty years.

Note that Israel contains many Muslim and Arab citizens, including Palestinians. How many Jewish citizens are there in Jordan, Syria, or other Arab nations? Why the fury over Jews living on the West Bank? Is the only valid Palestinian state one that has been cleansed of Jews?

The entire "oppressed people" bit is a canard, and simply an excuse for the pursuit of a vicious anti-Jewish agenda of the Palestinian leadership and other Arab nations. The reason no American president has succeeded in the peace process is that the Palestinian leadership and many of its people will accept no solution that does not involve the extinction of Israel. I don't know where one goes from there in a negotiation.