they are also pointing out something else

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they are also pointing out something else

Greg — 1/11/2004 7:19:34 AM (archived)

The statistics seem to be implying male college graduates are giving up looking for work in huge numbers. They say in surveys they are no longer even trying to find work, and people who lose jobs in IT would still be looking.

There doesn't seem to be a "Mr. Mom" kind of trend, with the wife still working. Perhaps men are trying early retirement and the wife still works. It might be also some black market work being done by college males but I don't know what that would be. The jobs problem is still a major one though.

A special survey asking college males what they are doing seems to be the only way to resolve this.

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employment and the labor force - Greg - 1/11/2004 4:43:51 AM
- Some more fun with statistics, or: where did those lost jobs all go? - Tom Brosz - 1/13/2004 12:06:13 AM
  - job creation has been slower than in almost any previous recovery, and wage growth has slowed to a crawl - Greg - 1/13/2004 5:00:17 PM
    - Did you even read my post? - Tom Brosz - 1/13/2004 9:26:20 PM
      - that always happens - Greg - 1/14/2004 11:33:23 AM
      - To reiterate: since January of 2001, America has created almost 690,000 jobs. - Tom Brosz - 1/13/2004 9:39:50 PM
        
        so what? - Greg - 1/15/2004 9:53:29 AM
        
        re: so what? - Tom Brosz - 1/16/2004 7:49:48 AM
        
        so we're back to those pesky references - Greg - 1/16/2004 11:56:47 AM
        
        Don't know why I'm bothering, but... - Tom Brosz - 1/16/2004 4:58:12 PM
        
        Ah, the quiet sound of chirping crickets... (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 1/20/2004 3:28:47 AM
        
        I see no references, just a petition from a partisan special interest group. (n/t) - Greg - 1/20/2004 3:44:23 AM
        
        "Economists? I see no economists. Does anyone else see economists?" LOL!! (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 1/20/2004 4:38:20 AM
        
        Did you read your own post? - Greg - 1/20/2004 8:16:44 AM
        
        re: Did you read your own post? - Tom Brosz - 1/20/2004 11:37:36 PM
        
        reasoning from observation? - Greg - 1/21/2004 8:30:24 AM
        
        re: "Reasoning from observation? Is there such a thing?" 'Nuff said. - Tom Brosz - 1/21/2004 8:50:43 PM
        
        P.S. I agree with Greg that this growth rate sucks. - Tom Brosz - 1/13/2004 9:45:33 PM
  - I wonder how many illeagal immigrent jobs are being counted as well. - Scott Evil - 1/13/2004 3:44:43 PM
    - P.S. with a population of nearly 300,000,000 you mean that fully 1/2 of all americans don't work? - Scott Evil - 1/13/2004 3:46:46 PM
      - That's about right - Larry J - 1/13/2004 9:36:30 PM
        
        Lazy old people and women need to get back to work - Scott Evil - 1/20/2004 6:34:59 PM
- Thats because many are now self-employed. - Scott Evil - 1/12/2004 6:01:46 PM
- Unfortunately, you seem to be correct. The employment rate (% of persons employed) has gone DOWN. This is very bad news. I don't see any recovery of jobs coming in the next few years. - David F Mayer - 1/11/2004 6:18:37 AM
  - they are also pointing out something else - Greg - 1/11/2004 7:19:34 AM
    - re: maybe they are starting their own businesses - Success_Machine - 1/11/2004 3:05:23 PM
      - re: Another possible explanation - Success_Machine - 1/11/2004 3:15:48 PM
        
        Juggling figures - Tom Brosz - 1/11/2004 8:39:03 PM
        
        To me, what matters is the percentage of adults between 18 and say 65 or 70 who are working. I am sure that the rate has gone down in the past decade. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 1/11/2004 11:13:59 PM
        
        Mystery solved, it's early retirement for college males - Greg - 1/13/2004 4:55:48 PM
        
        my guess is cellge males are trying to wait out the recession on credit instead of taking a low paying job. (n/t) - Greg - 1/11/2004 4:54:16 PM

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