Depends on how you use the pistol

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Depends on how you use the pistol

Larry J — 6/30/2004 2:06:50 PM (archived)

You wrote:

He was taken to prison, where...he was offered a pistol...

The lesson: even on The Night of Long Knives, having a gun may not be the advantage you might suspect.

If he'd taken the pistol and turned it on those who were trying to kill him, history might have turned out differently. Who offered him the pistol? Was it Goring or Himmler, or was it some lower level functionary? The article doesn't say, but could it's interesting to speculate how history might've been different had either of those men died in 1934. After all, Goring was the head of the Luftwaffe and Himmler was the head of the SS. Still, Goring was a pretty inept leader, so if he'd died early, his replacement might've been someone competent, which would've been a bad thing. On the other hand, it might've been Udet, the top scoring German pilot to survive WWI but who ended up committing suicide early in the war.

...when he did not commit suicide, the door was thrown open and he died in hail of gunfire.

Odds are, he still would've died that night. However, had he taken a few of Hitler's henchmen with him, it might have set a precedent to resist arrest by thugs.

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So is this disgusting and reprehensible, too? - alcaray - 6/29/2004 5:18:44 PM
- Speaking of disgusting and reprehensible... - Tom Brosz - 6/30/2004 7:11:30 AM
- But which one has the FAMILY TIES to Hitler? - Lindy - 6/30/2004 3:48:03 AM
  - TYPICAL of the Conservatives on this Board! - Lindy - 6/30/2004 10:02:37 PM
    - Are you for or against the embargo against Cuba? Discuss. - Tom Brosz - 7/1/2004 11:53:10 PM
      - Rational Discernment?? - Lindy - 7/2/2004 4:23:18 AM
    - How many of my post have you ignored? Many (NT) - REB - 7/1/2004 12:21:06 PM
      - Actually, there was text in my post. - REB - 7/1/2004 12:38:30 PM
        
        Saddam was a bad guy? Huh! (n/t) - alcaray - 7/1/2004 6:33:05 PM
        
        Complete and utter crap - Tony - 7/1/2004 5:15:58 PM
        
        Thanks Tony...... - Lindy - 7/1/2004 5:55:42 PM
        
        Lindy and Tony, a promise. - REB - 7/1/2004 6:31:46 PM
        
        If you have to be stronger than evil to combat it......... - Lindy - 7/1/2004 7:23:46 PM
        
        "Why would someone be a suicide terrorist? Because they have nothing to live for." - Tony - 7/1/2004 6:51:24 PM
        
        re: "Why would someone be a suicide terrorist? Because they have nothing to live for." - REB - 7/1/2004 8:09:53 PM
        
        Bleeding Heart Liberal Alert! ;-) (n/t) - Tony - 7/1/2004 8:56:02 PM
        
        re: Complete and utter crap - REB - 7/1/2004 5:44:47 PM
    - So did the Rockefellers and Kennedys, bimbo (n/t) - ebnelson - 7/1/2004 3:14:35 AM
      - Kinda rude, dude. (n/t) - alcaray - 7/1/2004 3:43:24 PM
    - Lindy, take it to Flame. (n/t) - SDG - 6/30/2004 11:05:41 PM
      - My goodness, gracious sakes alive!! - Bowser - 7/1/2004 4:26:58 AM
- Showing the images the democrats have been using against Bush is evil for....Republicans? - ebnelson - 6/30/2004 3:06:39 AM
  - ED the Poster Boy - Lindy - 7/1/2004 5:34:25 PM
    - So you are a bimbette. I stand corrected. Show where anyone in the Bush family was charged with treason. - ebnelson - 7/2/2004 4:05:22 AM
      - Show where anyone in the Bush family was charged with treason. - Lindy - 7/2/2004 4:14:40 AM
        
        So you know you were lying. Again. (n/t) - ebnelson - 7/3/2004 1:05:37 AM
- GWB always has played dirty. - Bowser - 6/29/2004 8:04:03 PM
  - And now McCain Brown Noses GWB - Lindy - 6/30/2004 2:45:39 AM
    - that's not helping....... (n/t) - Tony - 6/30/2004 5:39:45 PM
  - Yeah, throwing the radical Democrats words and images back in their face could be seen as playing dirty... - Larry J - 6/29/2004 9:56:31 PM
    - Heh, heh. You can tell when you "got" 'em, can't you. (n/t) - Bowser - 6/30/2004 12:33:27 AM
    - Or, to cite a real-world example of playing dirty - S - 6/30/2004 12:22:08 AM
- re: So is this disgusting and reprehensible, too? Yes. - Chris Vancil - 6/29/2004 7:12:33 PM
- Looks like the right has spoken - Tony - 6/29/2004 7:04:36 PM
  - Yes, the best way to destroy an lefty is to quote him straight. The only way to wreck a conservative is to lie about what he said. - ebnelson - 6/30/2004 3:10:26 AM
  - Barrel role around the topic... - RobVG - 6/29/2004 7:32:25 PM
  - Let me see if I have this straight - Larry J - 6/29/2004 7:23:16 PM
    - re: Let me see if I have this straight - Sick of Bushit. - 7/15/2004 4:39:02 PM
    - Nope. Not straight at all. Keep trying, there's always a first time. (n/t) - Bowser - 6/30/2004 1:44:49 AM
    - Having problems reading? Show me where I said anything was the Republican's fault. (n/t) - Tony - 6/29/2004 8:24:22 PM
    - What a coincidence! - McFly - 6/29/2004 8:15:23 PM
      - Depends on how you use the pistol - Larry J - 6/30/2004 2:06:50 PM
        
        (Goering) (n/t) - RobVG - 6/30/2004 3:44:38 PM
- Once again, you miss the obvious - Larry J - 6/29/2004 6:40:11 PM
  - Well, that IS his notable expertise... (n/t) - p - 6/29/2004 7:36:17 PM
    - To McFly, Larry, Phil & Rob - alcaray - 6/29/2004 9:12:53 PM
      - Well, to me... - RobVG - 6/29/2004 9:50:17 PM
        
        I haven't seen any references to MoveOn's gustatory experience - alcaray - 6/29/2004 10:46:53 PM
        
        "If you cut between Hitler and someone you don't like (like Kerry) - no matter what the label says - you make a comparison." - RobVG - 6/29/2004 11:23:35 PM
- Ooo...Spanked by Mcfly--Not good... (n/t) - RobVG - 6/29/2004 6:36:34 PM
- Pry open your mind a little bit and watch the video again (n/t) - McFly - 6/29/2004 6:31:37 PM
- Frankly Scarlet - FrankC - 6/29/2004 6:06:36 PM
- re: So is this disgusting and reprehensible, too? - Tom Brosz - 6/29/2004 5:59:01 PM
  - re: So is this disgusting and reprehensible, too? - REB - 6/29/2004 6:13:58 PM
    - Enough with Joe already - Tony - 6/29/2004 7:18:00 PM
      - Why? - REB - 6/29/2004 7:41:35 PM
        
        re: Why? - Tony - 6/29/2004 8:41:30 PM
        
        re: Why? - REB - 6/30/2004 12:39:19 PM
        
        huh? - SDG - 6/30/2004 2:57:40 PM
        
        Or listened to Gore? (n/t) - alcaray - 6/30/2004 4:56:46 PM
        
        or looked at Mondale, Dukakis, Gore or Kerry (n/t) - Tony - 6/30/2004 5:38:43 PM
        
        Okay, okay, you guys got me there. - REB - 6/30/2004 6:21:32 PM
        
        Hubert Humphrey! (n/t) - alcaray - 6/30/2004 5:46:41 PM
        
        Who was that guy with the bow tie? Something Simon? (n/t) - alcaray - 6/30/2004 11:00:30 PM
        
        On the other hand, you do have Conservative's tendency to pull... - alcaray - 6/30/2004 5:45:08 PM
        
        Once we get Arnold in the Whitehouse we'll see about repealing the 22nd. (n/t) - RobVG - 6/30/2004 7:12:32 PM
        
        re: On the other hand, you do have Conservative's tendency to pull... - REB - 6/30/2004 6:23:54 PM
        
        re: huh? - REB - 6/30/2004 4:01:56 PM
        
        well then, - SDG - 6/30/2004 5:17:29 PM
        
        re: well then, - REB - 6/30/2004 5:23:20 PM
    - Lieberman sounds too much like Ben Stein. (n/t) - RobVG - 6/29/2004 6:17:32 PM
      - That too ;-) (n/t) - Tony - 6/29/2004 9:00:06 PM
- Uhm... I am I missing something? - RobVG - 6/29/2004 5:54:27 PM
  - What BS do you refer to? - alcaray - 6/29/2004 9:16:52 PM
    - re: What BS do you refer to? - RobVG - 6/29/2004 9:28:21 PM
      - re: "adding the productions to their website involved more than a button click." - alcaray - 6/29/2004 10:12:16 PM

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