Hula girl vs. emphysema

Mary Anne — 11/13/2004 3:43:32 AM (archived)

Will you listen to yourself?

Elsewhere you go on about lack of foresight leading to poverty and privation. Well, this kid's lack of foresight is going to make him gravely ill in the future. Your own Mr. Dalrymple, in that article about what losers the British poor are, deplores smoking as a waste of money and as corrosive to public health. Yet, if people write to the paper to criticize the use of an image that features smoking prominently in connection with bravery, they are automatically snooty America-haters.

If he had been drinking Jim Beam straight out of the bottle, would that have bothered anybody?

So he has an addiction. Let's not lionize it.

The newspaper used that pic because they had a cute headline. Cigarettes have nothing to do with manliness or patriotism. Opposition to glamorizing their use has as much to do with a superior attitude as does opposition to glamorizing any other addictive substance.

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"Marlboro Man" vs. "girly-man" - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2004 12:42:09 AM
- G. K. Chesterton - Tom Brosz - 11/16/2004 11:58:03 PM
  - Or, if you prefer a contemporary of Chesterton, Wilfred Owen - Mary Anne - 11/18/2004 3:43:10 AM
    - Cripes. Compared to WWI, modern warfare is almost civilized. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 11/18/2004 5:44:20 AM
  - US Surgeon General Richard Carmona - Mary Anne - 11/18/2004 3:29:46 AM
    - But don't you see, all those folks dying young of smoking related disease will reduce the strain on the Old Age support system! - LJ - 11/18/2004 6:23:33 PM
- re: "Marlboro Man" vs. "girly-man" - Johnny - 11/16/2004 10:39:14 PM
  - Ah, the honeyed cadences of Southern eloquence... - Mary Anne - 11/18/2004 3:05:39 AM
- re: "Marlboro Man" vs. "girly-man" - Tom Brosz - 11/16/2004 7:17:56 PM
- re: Now that is a photo worthy of a pulitzer prize... - Scott Evil - 11/16/2004 5:50:02 PM
  - People are offended by the ADVERTIZING. - Mary Anne - 11/18/2004 3:47:34 AM
- To be realistic, it should have been a joint (n/t) - LJ - 11/13/2004 6:50:31 PM
  - He was an American soldier, not Canadian. ;) (n/t) - Lee - 11/14/2004 2:57:07 AM
    - Yeah, but we sell most of our stuff to you! (n/t) - LJ - 11/14/2004 5:30:38 AM
- More on the "Malboro Man" - FrankC - 11/13/2004 9:47:05 AM
- The real Marine - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2004 8:07:47 AM
  - arrgh, you already linked it (n/t) - FrankC - 11/13/2004 9:56:10 AM
- Dan Rather said it made him tearful and proud (n/t) - FrankC - 11/13/2004 3:06:11 AM
  - I smell Pulitzer, at least for nominations... (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2004 6:01:09 AM
- "Girly-man" has last laugh. - Mary Anne - 11/13/2004 1:32:37 AM
  - re: "Girly-man" has last laugh. - Johnny - 11/16/2004 10:46:10 PM
    - So, by your logic, it wouldn't matter if he brushed his teeth, either. - Mary Anne - 11/18/2004 2:54:32 AM
      - What's really ironic... - Tom Brosz - 11/18/2004 5:46:05 AM
  - re: last laugh. - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2004 2:32:29 AM
    - Hula girl vs. emphysema - Mary Anne - 11/13/2004 3:43:32 AM
      - Okay. - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2004 5:57:47 AM
        
        Slight correction... - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2004 6:00:00 AM
        
        Okay. - Mary Anne - 11/13/2004 12:22:13 PM
        
        Ads for the tobacco industry. - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2004 8:23:53 PM
        
        Scroll down to the bottom of the article in your link. - Mary Anne - 11/13/2004 9:26:30 PM
        
        And every day, 20 million kids don't. - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2004 11:07:04 PM
        
        If kids are all that good at making choices that they don't need adults looking out for them, let's give them the vote. - Mary Anne - 11/14/2004 1:21:00 AM
        
        re: making choices - Tom Brosz - 11/14/2004 2:34:24 AM
        
        re: making choices - Johnny - 11/16/2004 10:55:28 PM
        
        Hmmm. Soldier with cigarette. Headline reads "SMOKIN'". Caption calls soldiers "Marlboro Men". Not about smoking. Oooookey-dokey, then. - Mary Anne - 11/18/2004 12:29:22 AM
        
        Did you read the letters you posted? - Mary Anne - 11/14/2004 4:16:14 PM
        
        re: Scroll down to the bottom of the article in your link. - gbaikie - 11/13/2004 11:05:13 PM
        
        re: Slight correction... - gbaikie - 11/13/2004 8:19:55 AM
- P.S. - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2004 12:43:25 AM

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