re: It was an analogy, not an objection. Much remains to be invented BY COMPETITIVE PRIZE CONTESTANTS.

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re: It was an analogy, not an objection. Much remains to be invented BY COMPETITIVE PRIZE CONTESTANTS.

Doug Ellison — 12/22/2004 5:57:34 PM (archived)

Your initial rant was not about competative prizes - you suggested a conspiracy regarding limiting data return from the MERS.

To propse such a conspiracy is such monumental folly that it doesnt bear mentioning.

You have steering the discussion away from this - having been totally shot down in flames by mulitple rebutals, some of which were by me - toward the issue of competative contracting.

Ironically - many of the MER components were competatively contracted. As was the launch vehicle.

There is no company on the planet that would answer a call for a competative prize to land a rover on mars. Only one body has every succesfully done it, and only one body has a chance of doing it again - and that's NASA/JPL.

Now - are you going to apologise for or retract your hiddeous miss-information regarding how many colour image can or have been sent back by MER, and how this compared to MPF?

Doug

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Some interesting Rover pics (embedded in post) - LJ - 12/20/2004 5:08:44 PM
- Would color photos really have been that much more resource-consuming? - ~tax leech - 12/20/2004 11:40:52 PM
  - here's one from last week - pwokenyaw - 12/21/2004 12:46:48 AM
    - Thanks. I wonder why NASA doesn't transmit more though. - ~tax leech - 12/21/2004 1:07:22 AM
      - re: Thanks. I wonder why NASA doesn't transmit more though. - Doug Ellison - 12/21/2004 8:34:34 AM
        
        Once MRO is in place, data tranmission from Mars should be greatly increased. (n/t) - Lee - 12/22/2004 8:47:58 AM
        
        Pathfinder cost many times LESS & used much older technology. - ~tax leech - 12/21/2004 5:42:18 PM
        
        re: Pathfinder cost many times LESS & used much older technology. - Doug Ellison - 12/21/2004 9:12:07 PM
        
        How do you know MER's not greatly over-priced? Why not offer Mars prizes to establish better comparisons? - ~tax leech - 12/22/2004 1:02:39 AM
        
        re: How do you know MER's not greatly over-priced? Why not offer Mars prizes to establish better comparisons? - Doug Ellison - 12/22/2004 10:55:28 AM
        
        Earn money off of NASA contracts, do ya? - ~tax leech - 12/22/2004 4:19:56 PM
        
        re: Earn money off of NASA contracts, do ya? - Doug Ellison - 12/22/2004 5:45:56 PM
        
        re: Earn money off of NASA contracts, do ya? - ~tax leech - 12/22/2004 5:52:39 PM
        
        Now what's wrong with Shaun of the Dead? - alcaray - 12/23/2004 12:08:06 AM
        
        re:stupidest conspiracy theory ever - Dave - 12/21/2004 6:00:06 PM
        
        You don't think LockMart and JPL fear competitive prizes' implications? - ~tax leech - 12/21/2004 6:08:26 PM
        
        re: You don't think LockMart and JPL fear competitive prizes' implications - Dave - 12/21/2004 6:32:40 PM
        
        MSL pix: And video! (n/t) - alcaray - 12/21/2004 7:14:17 PM
        
        2004 cellphones offer it for a fraction of the cost. Why no Mars prizes yet? - ~tax leech - 12/22/2004 12:43:38 AM
        
        When we have buried mars in telecom sats and microwave towers and copper and silicon cables... - alcaray - 12/22/2004 4:25:26 PM
        
        It was an analogy, not an objection. Much remains to be invented BY COMPETITIVE PRIZE CONTESTANTS. - ~tax leech - 12/22/2004 4:29:37 PM
        
        re: It was an analogy, not an objection. Much remains to be invented BY COMPETITIVE PRIZE CONTESTANTS. - Doug Ellison - 12/22/2004 5:57:34 PM
        
        Learn to read and others' postings won't be so offensive. - ~tax leech - 12/22/2004 6:14:24 PM
        
        re: Learn to read and others' postings won't be so offensive. - Doug Ellison - 12/22/2004 6:49:50 PM
        
        Last time I tried, my cell phone didn't work on mars - Dave - 12/22/2004 2:16:39 AM
        
        Won't the 2009 mission already have its relaying network intact? - ~tax leech - 12/22/2004 4:19:37 AM
        
        re: Won't the 2009 mission already have its relaying network intact? - Dave - 12/22/2004 11:05:07 AM
        
        Prizes permit economies of scale; and litigation-aversive R&D isn't needed (unlike w/ cars) - ~tax leech - 12/22/2004 4:24:32 PM
        
        re: Won't the 2009 mission already have its relaying network intact? - Doug Ellison - 12/22/2004 11:13:44 AM
        
        Such arrogance was profitable, before competitive prizes appeared at NASA. - ~tax leech - 12/22/2004 4:27:55 PM
        
        You twit! That space pen nonsense is well known to be an urban legend - R.L. - 12/23/2004 6:23:31 AM
        
        re: Such arrogance was profitable, before competitive prizes appeared at NASA. - Doug Ellison - 12/22/2004 5:52:22 PM
        
        Learn to READ, Shaun of the Dead fan - ~tax leech - 12/22/2004 5:56:05 PM
        
        re: Learn to READ, Shaun of the Dead fan - Doug Ellison - 12/22/2004 6:00:33 PM
        
        Then stop calling others trolls just because they don't agree with your statist views. (n/t) - ~tax leech - 12/22/2004 6:08:24 PM
        
        I know what you mean - Daniel - 12/21/2004 12:03:05 PM
        
        re: I know what you mean - Doug Ellsion - 12/21/2004 1:03:02 PM
        
        re: I know what you mean - Dave - 12/21/2004 5:14:56 PM
        
        They were so well designed, what if they don't die, but instead limp along. - Scott Evil - 12/23/2004 3:08:31 PM
        
        re: I know what you mean - Raoul - 12/21/2004 3:22:48 PM
        
        Yep, an uphill battle .. - Daniel - 12/21/2004 2:27:21 PM

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