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azstrummer — 9/29/2006 6:52:13 PM (archived)

No Tom. You didn't read what I had to say or conveniently read it as you wanted it. It's a common tactic. I never disputed that the timeline might not have fit exactly the perception of the people that these guys were flown out quickly. They certainly weren't detained for weeks to see what kind of info we could wean out of them that they might remember after the first few days as I'm certain some law enforcement and intelligence officials would've wanted. They were a potential source of data that we weighed against political considerations (right or wrong) and let them fly.

The question to you was how you'd have handled the EXACT SAME decision and EXACT SAME timeline had it been made by a Democrat. That's why the facts and circumstances are immaterial. It's obvious you're avoiding that question because you know the answer. Your mentor Karl Rove would've made that a national discussion long before Michael Moore ever addressed it in his film and the President would've been disparaged and treated as some form of traitor. You, being the good card-carrying member would've bowed in submission and your bobbleheaded response would've been obvious.

You're becoming the clown prince of debate here.

Art

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Bill Clinton connects the dots - E.P. - 9/25/2006 2:07:45 PM
- Whose NSA said, "Who would have thought?" 'Nuff sed! (n/t) - Bowser - 9/25/2006 6:55:14 PM
- Poor Bill Clinton. - Scott Evil - 9/25/2006 3:21:57 PM
  - Let's just forget about the entire Bin Laden family being flown out the country the day after 911 when every other plane in the country was grounded. (n/t) - Buck Galaxy - 9/26/2006 3:01:24 AM
    - It didn't happen. - Scot Evil - 9/26/2006 1:45:50 PM
      - This kind of Catholic liberal tripe diverts from WHAT DID HAPPEN - E.P. - 9/26/2006 3:03:44 PM
        
        "Catholic liberal tripe"? What is that? - Mary Anne - 9/27/2006 2:46:25 AM
        
        Michael Moore's (n/t) - E.P. - 9/27/2006 7:35:36 AM
    - More unadulterated crap. - Tom Brosz - 9/26/2006 6:35:28 AM
      - And when was the Bib Ladin Family interrogated? - Buck Galaxy - 9/27/2006 8:04:33 AM
        
        Before the planes left. - Tom Brosz - 9/27/2006 4:26:47 PM
        
        Looks pretty solid but - Buck Galaxy - 9/28/2006 5:01:44 AM
        
        re: Looks pretty solid but - Tom Brosz - 9/28/2006 5:15:55 AM
        
        You conveniently.... - azstrummer - 9/28/2006 10:47:22 PM
        
        Probably due to its absolute irrelevance. - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2006 2:39:42 AM
        
        More evasion - azstrummer - 9/29/2006 3:41:27 PM
        
        "who cares what evidence you can present..." I guess that winds this subject up, then. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2006 4:17:43 PM
        
        Quote the whole line Tom. It includes the word timelines. That's the immaterial part. (n/t) - azstrummer - 9/29/2006 5:13:50 PM
        
        Good Lord... - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2006 6:11:53 PM
        
        I wouldn't go that far - Buck Galaxy - 9/30/2006 7:10:59 PM
        
        re: Good Lord... - azstrummer - 9/29/2006 6:52:13 PM
        
        There hasn't been real debate here for some time. Enjoy it. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2006 7:50:07 PM
        
        Rational ones - Lindy - 9/29/2006 4:24:30 AM
        
        re: Rational - Tom Brosz - 9/29/2006 4:35:01 AM
        
        Is he any relation to... - alcaray - 9/27/2006 3:35:02 PM
      - Oh, like SNOPES has the "final" say - Lindy - 9/26/2006 3:00:15 PM
        
        Snopes was quoting the 9/11 Commission. - Mary Anne - 9/27/2006 2:50:08 AM
        
        re: Snopes was quoting the 9/11 Commission. - Lindy - 9/27/2006 4:20:58 AM
        
        Tampa Tribune - Alan G. Archer - 9/27/2006 4:47:13 AM
        
        Link - Tom Brosz - 9/27/2006 4:37:17 PM
        
        Bodyguards - Lindy - 9/28/2006 2:13:11 AM
        
        For the third time on this single thread... - Tom Brosz - 9/28/2006 3:21:34 AM
        
        "The FBI is alleged to have had no record of the flight and denied that it occurred, hence contributing to the story of a "phantom flight." - Lindy - 9/28/2006 3:52:13 AM
        
        Thanks, Tom - Alan G. Archer - 9/27/2006 11:30:25 PM
        
        re: Tampa Tribune - Lindy - 9/27/2006 4:24:08 PM
        
        Walked or arrested? - Alan G. Archer - 9/28/2006 2:09:49 AM
        
        re: Walked or arrested? - Lindy - 9/28/2006 2:15:19 AM
        
        Thanks, Liddy. Baah...baah. I will now go back to my pasture to graze. (n/t) - Alan G. Archer - 9/28/2006 2:36:59 AM
        
        Who are the true historians? (n/t) - Alan G. Archer - 9/26/2006 10:52:36 PM
    - The reason why Usama was in afghanistan was because the entire bin laden family threw him out of Saudi Arabia (n/t) - E.P. - 9/26/2006 6:15:02 AM
  - Another attack by lying neocon fascist scum - E.P. - 9/25/2006 6:00:34 PM
    - Ah yes. There was no terrorism until Bush bungeled the ball. - Scott Evil - 9/25/2006 6:08:39 PM
      - Many attempts attacks were stopped. (n/t) - E.P. - 9/25/2006 7:39:11 PM
        
        Many attempts, attacks were stopped. (n/t) - E.P. - 9/25/2006 7:40:35 PM
  - Had it been Rumsfeld barking at a reporter... - alcaray - 9/25/2006 5:08:05 PM
    - Rumsfield gets barked at by reporters daily. - Scott Evil - 9/25/2006 5:55:33 PM
      - You are a... - alcaray - 9/25/2006 6:39:54 PM
        
        I'm pretty sure I've made the statement here before that Rumsfield can take it. - Scott Evil - 9/25/2006 6:49:20 PM
        
        Define "quagmire" for him. Guy doesn't know English. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/25/2006 6:56:00 PM
        
        No need to define the term for me. - Scott Evil - 9/25/2006 7:15:04 PM
        
        ahh: magical thinking. - alcaray - 9/27/2006 3:50:49 PM
        
        Isn't it kind of late for "a quick end to the war"?? Like about three years at least. (n/t) - Laurie Street - 9/25/2006 8:48:42 PM
        
        Learn English - Lindy - 9/25/2006 8:34:14 PM
        
        For those whom Iraq doesn't offend there is no hope. (n/t) - Bowser - 9/25/2006 11:53:08 PM
  - Bill's MELTDOWN............. - carl - 9/25/2006 4:27:23 PM
    - re: Where is the evidence that Clinton "was obsessed with killing Bin Ladin". He wasn't. In fact he was more obsessed with Sadam Hussain. - Scott Evil - 9/25/2006 6:06:11 PM
      - Do you read your own posts?? You think your title MIGHT apply to Bush more so than Clinton? (n/t) - Buck Galaxy - 9/26/2006 2:59:47 AM
        
        Were talking evidence here... There is evidence Clinton WAS OBSESSED WITH SADAM. - Scott Evil - 9/26/2006 1:44:28 PM
        
        Evidence: - alcaray - 9/27/2006 10:42:13 PM
        
        "The subject is Clinton..." - Buck Galaxy - 9/27/2006 8:01:41 AM
        
        At some point the subject becomes attack politics practiced by neocon fascisrt scum (n/t) - E.P. - 9/27/2006 1:35:28 AM
      - it was the Republicans who used Sadam Hussein and Bin Laden first - Lindy - 9/26/2006 12:07:57 AM
    - Can't help but blame Bill, can they? 5 years of chaos later, and it's Bill. - Bowser - 9/25/2006 4:37:31 PM
      - remember this? - Scott Evil - 9/25/2006 6:21:01 PM
        
        Compare that to the present situation. - Bowser - 9/25/2006 6:31:28 PM
- I'll throw you one for free: Look past the AP a little bit. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/25/2006 2:33:24 PM

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