Off Topic — HabitableZone

Off Topic » in reply to Well if you want to escape to metaphysics, you can make any unprovable assertion that you want to.

Where's the metaphysics?

Phi is not metaphysical. It's presence in nature and in the universe is not metaphysical. Believe it or not. I can't package an infinity for you to illustrate the infinite nature of the universe, I can only take ANY component of it, examine it, and see how the energy functions within it.

I don't care if people die, animals die or plants die - my focus is the energy that they contained - does that energy continue endlessly? What are the mathematics behind that flow of energy.

If it does continue endlessly, the universe is by default infinite.

Phi is really all the material proof we need. It's up to the finite universe folks to prove that Phi, as observed in nature, somehow doesn't fly in the face of a finite universe and all a finite universe implies.

;-)

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