TB:These people already have more rights and privileges than any POW in American history.

Bullshit- and what is worse you KNOW its bullshit! This administration fought like hell against conceeding that the Geneva conventions even applied to these people! It was not until the Supreme Court ruled on this in June 2006 that they were forced to issue a statement in July 2006 that the prisoners would be treated in accordance with the Geneva conventions!

But denying these prisoners the protection of the Geneva Convention wasnt enough- It wasn't until September 2006 that 14 prisoners were transferred to GTMO and the administration admitted that they had been held in CIA 'black sites' without being charged.

More and more we are finding out about cases like that of Murat Kurnazwho was a resident of germany in the process of becoming a german citizen at the time he was sold to us for a bounty-

In late 2004, the Bush Presidency was forced to openly review the status of the Guantanamo detainees, and make a determination whether they should have been classified as enemy combatants.

Kurnaz was one of the detainees with enough legal assistance to challenge the legality of his review in a Washington, D.C. court. Both German investigators, and United States Army investigators failed to find any evidence of a tie between Kurnaz and Al-Qaeda or any involvement in any terrorist activities. The three officers who reviewed his case asserted that they had classified evidence that established his guilt, but never disclosed this evidence to Kurnaz, his attorneys, or to the public.

Shortly before March 27, 2005, apparently through an administrative slip-up, the evidence against Kurnaz was declassified. Much of the evidence therein was exculpatory, but an unsigned, unsupported memo suggested guilt.

After FIVE YEARS he was finally released! How many more are there? We dont know because the evidence has not been presented- not even to the prisoners themselves! As Colin Powell said: "Essentially, we have shaken the belief the world had in America's justice system by keeping a place like Guantanamo open and creating things like the military commission. We don't need it and it is causing us far more damage than any good we get for it".

The International Committee of the Red Cross inspected the camp in June 2004. In a confidential report issued in July 2004 and leaked to the New York Times in November 2004, Red Cross inspectors accused the U.S. military of using "humiliating acts, solitary confinement, temperature extremes, use of forced positions" against prisoners. The inspectors concluded that "the construction of such a system, whose stated purpose is the production of intelligence, cannot be considered other than an intentional system of cruel, unusual and degrading treatment and a form of torture." The United States Government has reportedly rejected the Red Cross findings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp

An FBI email from December 2003, six months after Saar had left, said that the Defense Department interrogators at Guantánamo had impersonated FBI agents while using "torture techniques" on a detainee.

TB: They have had access to petition for habeas corpus since the end of 2004.

Again bullshit! This administration has gone to extraordinary lengths to thwart that!

Among the approximately two dozen Uyghur detainees in Guantanamo, the Washington Post reported on August 25, 2005, that fifteen had been determined not to have been "enemy combatants." Some of the Uyghurs had lawyers who volunteered to help them pursue a writ of habeas corpus, which would have been the single step in getting them freed from American detention. Five of the Uyghurs were scheduled to have arguments for their writ of habeas corpus argued in U.S. District Court on 8 May 2006. However, on May 5, the five Uyghurs were transported to refugee camps in Albania, thousands of miles from their homes, and the Department of Justice filed an "Emergency Motion to Dismiss as Moot" on the same day. One of the Uyghurs' lawyers characterized the sudden transfer as an attempt "to avoid having to answer in court for keeping innocent men in jail".

AND THEN THERE IS TORTURE!

Sere trainers provided Mr Haynes with a list of techniques, including sensory deprivation, sleep disruption, water-boarding and stress positions.

Several were approved by the then Defence Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, in December 2002 despite objections by military lawyers.

Mr Haynes said he had been unaware of the legal objection from the military and that he had been doing the best he could to prevent further attacks.

The committee also released details from previously classified minutes of a meeting in October 2002 in which a top military lawyer at Guantanamo said previously banned techniques such as sleep deprivation were being used secretly.

"Officially it is not happening," Lt Col Diane Beaver told the meeting, adding that commanders feared the Red Cross might find out.

John Fredman, then chief counsel to the CIA's counter-terrorism centre, argued during the meeting that torture "is basically subject to perception".

"If the detainee dies, you're doing it wrong," he said.

We have considered waterboarding torture for decades, yet suddenly it is acceptable? You know damn well that this administrations actions on this will be judged VERY harshly by history.

How long will we hold them, TB? What will be the definition of 'end of hostilities'- at what point does it become too much for even you to stomach? Let me know how far it can go before you will admit that what we are doing is wrong....

Manadel al-Jamadi (Arabic: مناضل الجمادي‎) was an Iraqi prisoner who was tortured to death in United States custody during interrogation at Abu Ghraib prison in November 2003

The cause of his death was not generally known until February 17, 2005, when it was revealed that he had died after a fruitless half-hour interrogation, during which he was suspended from a barred window by his wrists, which were bound behind his back. News reports introduced the term "Palestinian hanging," a coinage attributed to the alleged use of this technique by Israeli troops on Palestinian prisoners. Since at least the sixteenth century, this torture has been known as strappado.

Associated Press correspondent Seth Hettena reported that 30 minutes after beginning his questioning of the prisoner, the CIA interrogator Mark Swanner called for guards to reposition al-Jamadi, who he believed was "playing possum" as he slouched with his arms stretched behind him. But the guards found otherwise:

"After we found out he was dead, they were nervous," Specialist Dennis Stevanus said of the CIA interrogator and translator. "They didn't know what the hell to do." [1]

U.S. Navy SEALs had apprehended al-Jamadi as a suspect in the October 27, 2003, bombing of Red Cross offices in Baghdad that killed 12 people. His role in the bombing, if any, is unknown. His status was that of a ghost prisoner, whose imprisonment and death would not normally have been included in official prison records.

Its being done in our name, TB, maybe you are ok with that- but I am NOT!