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What a bunch of nonsence.

alcaray — 6/30/2008 8:23:02 PM (archived)

Some info on torture here.

In particular, here's what Geneva says (with no "redefinitions" necessary) [And I should point out that I have directed you to this info in the past - pretending you are unaware of it is unworthy.]:

"Article 32. A protected person/s shall not have anything done to them of such a character as to cause physical suffering or extermination ... the physical suffering or extermination of protected persons in their hands. This prohibition applies not only to murder, torture, corporal punishments, mutilation and medical or scientific experiments not necessitated by the medical treatment' "

'GCIII covers the treatment of prisoners of war (POWs) in an international armed conflict. In particular, Article 17 says that "No physical or mental torture, nor any other form of coercion, may be inflicted on prisoners of war to secure from them information of any kind whatever. Prisoners of war who refuse to answer may not be threatened, insulted or exposed to unpleasant or disadvantageous treatment of any kind." '

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Does anyone think that Bush will clean up any of his messes? - Bowser - 6/28/2008 11:49:39 PM
- Psssstttt - Eri - 6/29/2008 2:25:21 AM
  - Where would you have put the prisoners? (n/t) - TB - 6/29/2008 4:44:50 AM
    - Drop 'em by parachute into their own countries. - Eri - 6/29/2008 7:02:26 PM
      - Ah. Kill them. As long as we're clear on what the enlightened approach is. (n/t) - TB - 6/30/2008 1:20:37 AM
        
        Or was that "release them to fight again?" I'm sure either approach is better than Gitmo. (n/t) - TB - 6/30/2008 1:32:19 AM
        
        What ever happened to fair trials? - Lindy - 6/30/2008 2:02:19 AM
        
        Either America lives by the principles it espouses or it doesn't... - ARRELL - 6/30/2008 2:01:35 AM
        
        re: principles - TB - 6/30/2008 5:47:16 AM
        
        Either you are faking ignorance or you REALLY don't know what you are talking about... - ARRELL - 6/30/2008 6:12:49 PM
        
        re: Either you are faking ignorance or you REALLY don't know what you are talking about... - TB - 6/30/2008 7:12:14 PM
        
        What a bunch of nonsence. - alcaray - 6/30/2008 8:23:02 PM
        
        You left off the important part... - ARRELL - 6/30/2008 10:39:21 PM
        
        re: the important part - TB - 6/30/2008 11:06:42 PM
        
        "First, we have now apparently redefined "torture" as anything at all--anything--that makes a prisoner either physically or mentally uncomfortable." - alcaray - 7/1/2008 12:46:02 AM
        
        The statement is true. - TB - 7/1/2008 12:55:44 AM
        
        You made the allegation. (n/t) - alcaray - 7/1/2008 1:14:58 AM
        
        Read this carefully - ARRELL - 7/1/2008 12:26:23 AM
        
        Objective values & morals - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/1/2008 1:07:32 AM
        
        Giving your post a response in kind - SDUH - 7/1/2008 2:15:27 AM
        
        You give mirror writing a bad name... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/1/2008 3:02:35 AM
        
        Why, I have no idea what you mean! - SDUMB-ASS - 7/1/2008 3:43:23 AM
        
        Ad hominem... - SDAI-Tech1 - 7/1/2008 4:57:05 AM
        
        Don't look at me- this is apparently between you and the Bulgarians now... - ARRELL - 7/1/2008 6:11:58 AM
        
        re: Read this carefully - TB - 7/1/2008 12:53:53 AM
        
        "Does it matter that the potential victims don't even get a vote?"- No, it really doesn't - ARRELL - 7/1/2008 1:30:43 AM
        
        Rationally, I agree with you. - TB - 7/1/2008 1:51:44 AM
        
        Then why do you keep defending what you KNOW is wrong? (n/t) - ARRELL - 7/1/2008 2:40:04 AM
        
        Why are you attacking? - TB - 7/1/2008 4:10:46 AM
        
        A New York Times article on the interrogation of KSM - TB - 6/30/2008 7:39:41 PM
        
        A lot of "these people" weren't guilty of anything, yet were held for years and then released. - alcaray - 6/30/2008 9:10:44 AM
        
        Monsters, using their conduct to justify one's own. - Bowser - 6/30/2008 6:03:10 AM
        
        "we've become the monster we were supposedly ridding the world of" - Lindy - 6/30/2008 1:53:28 PM
    - A ranch just outside Crawford, Texas. Some in Kennebunkport. (n/t) - Bowser - 6/29/2008 5:48:10 AM

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