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Why sticking the tax payer with the bill for a failed war that wasn't required is okay, but GOD FORBID we pick up the tab for starving or uneducated americans?

We already do pick up the tab - at the State level. Food Stamps, free or low cost healthcare the works.

Why rolling back massive tax cuts for the richest percent of our country while cutting taxes for everyone else is EVIL SOCIALISM, when the richest 1 percent has been busy shoveling their money by the steambucket load into offshore accounts, tax havens and investments in other countries?


Precisely because it's impossible to successfully tax the very rich. I explained on flame exactly what happens when corporate taxes are raised and the folks paying the "rich" tax hikes are almost always the guys whose real life wealth is basically upper middle-class. And those dwindling folks are often the ones whose money supports others who are low income earners. One ends up missing the target and screwing over the poor - indirectly.

Why its JUST FINE to run up impossible deficits to deliver those tax cuts to the wealthy, in the middle of a goddamn war on TWO fronts but its SOCIALISM to try to juggle the books for the little guy
Why Bush driving this country into debt as fast as he can is JUST FINE by you righteous jerks, but trying to re-balance the books and pay for some health care for americans is SOCIALISM!


Not everyone is fine with Bush's spending. The IRAQ war and occupation was about securing oil to counter the speculative bubble and compensate for the election of Socialists in our big 1990s supplier of oil, Brazil, at the close of the Clinton era. The war was only partially successful in doing so. It is likely it focused our enemies on what our real weakness was.

And healthcare will cost FAR, FAR more than a war on two fronts. And the healthcare it will provide will be the sort where the doctor looks at you after a week waiting for an appt, says you are fine, and then sends you packing with a placebo made in China with melamine.

Pardon me for wanting doctors for the masses who actually fears malpractice lawsuits.

Why the hell are you all so fired up to spend 2 trillion dollars for purple-fingered Iraqis who hate our guts, but scream 'SOCIALISM!' at people wanting to make sure that American kids who are not possibly responsible for their plight can get basic health care? (Just think, with the proper care and nutrition, you blood thirsty right wingers can send them off to kill... I mean liberate... the next generation of Iraqis!!!)


See above. Iraq is all about OIL. (YES! The far left was right!) It's obvious if we subtly coerce them to sell oil to us - we should rebuild their infrastructure and try to get some semblance of democracy in place in the middle east outside of Israel to compensate them. Other nations in Europe bought the oil for cheap bribes to the dictator - we are going the distance and trying to actually to do more than just build palaces and statues. It probably WILL work. TIME and PRESENCE will influence a generation of Iraqis who will never be able to willingly go back to neverending fear of dictatorships or the tyranny of heavy-handed Islamic governments and Sharia.

Why your party can set forth an initiative to spend incredible amounts of money bailing out wall steet, but scream 'SOCIALISM!' at people wanting to stop the foreclosures and keep people in their houses.
While every credible economist, including Alan Greenspan has pegged the origin of the nascent financial crisis on lack of regulation, why is it that you Right Wing Clowns scream 'SOCIALISM!' at anyone wanting to impose some reglations in the MBS, CDS and Derivative markets where this whole disaster began


Nobody here on the right was for the bailout. I CELEBRATED when I learned it had failed the first time. The politicians of both parties showed they are ONE party when the money debts are called due by their bankrollers. This should have been YOUR wake up call that we are screwed regardless and "partisan" hopes for change are misdirected energy and time.

See above, while a REPUBLICAN administration nationalizes the damn banking system
Why you expect anyone to listen to your goddamn whining after 8+ years of republican dominance of the government has landed us in the worst economic situation that anyone under 70 can even remember?


Well I expect folks to listen to me because I understand what's going on and the causes. I explain it in long painful detail. I explain how our economy is being thrashed by cheap labor and I explain how the greedy CEOs and companies now simply seek to accumulate cash and not generate wealth for America. I repeatedly point out that both parties are beholden to the banks - the bailout vote PROVES that.

And the Congress has been DNC for the past almost 2 years. The economy is the government's fault ONLY in as much as it has failed to secure our national borders and turn a blind eye to GLARING antitrust mergers over the past 35 years - dating back to the Carter years.

See above - POLITICIANS are snakes. Beholden to others with MONEY because they generate no wealth of their own.

There you go. A point-by-point rebuttal.

I wish you would get over the partisan railing and wake-up and smell the roses. We are ALL screwed because we have let politicians SELL us the notion they can make things better. We waste YEARS of time and attention focusing on these worthless spitballs, when statistically almost NONE of them will EVER make things better. That's a disproportionate wast of the NATIONAL MIND.

Refocus the masses on NON-GOVERNMENT solutions. DEMAND the MEDIA drive SCIENCE, SCIENCE, SCIENCE instead of whether Angelina had a tummy tuck. Drive the MASSES to WORK FOR ENERGY SOLUTIONS, HEALTHCARE TECHNOLOGIES and BETTER WAYS OF LIVING.

The Government and MEDIA have SCAMMED everyone into following the flashing spinning wheel. They offer FALSE CHOICES so that you don't look over in the corner at the REAL ones.

If the marches and rallies were for TECHNOLOGICAL PROGRESS and real CHANGE - God! - what a different world we would be living in!

Instead we have folks embracing the FALSE BANKROLLED choices OBAMA or MCCAIN and expecting either of these losers to make a difference in the state of HUMAN affairs.

There you have it. We can play partisan gotcha games until we die or we can rally the masses around TRUE solutions to human suffering in all venues.

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