There was and is no 'debate'.
Just rational people who critically examine the evidence, and tin foil hat types.
The one sided discussion in that thread was ludicrous. It doesn't belong in flame or space, it belongs in off topic. I thought rational crowd was very restrained, considering that the thread was started by someone with no knowledge of the history and development of the problems, and was dredging up well debunked nonsense and presenting it as credible, with no corroborating evidence at all.