E.P. Grondine wrote: Well, this exchange has certainly made my morning - the Mars Society and the Space Frtontier Foundation having a tiff.

Chris writes: You are seriously confused. Tell us who do you think is in the SFF and who is in the TMS? I'll give you a hint it isn't what you seem to think...

I think Mark's problem with the Spaceref PR it is doubtful Marc and Keith would have even thought of Devon Island as a spot for a greenhouse without the Mars Society PR from the HAB and simulations.

E.P. Grondine wrote: As for the value of the greenhouse, it is a great and very cost effective publicity stunt - for which I or anyone else have to give Keith full credit. Unfortunately, the greenhouse's scientific value is nil.

Chris writes: This "nil" assessment is based on what? I see little of importance coming from the greenhouse, but I would happily accept proof of it's valve.

--Chris Vancil