I Got The Point 3 Posts Ago & Strongly Disagree

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I Got The Point 3 Posts Ago & Strongly Disagree

Mark Eby — 6/4/2002 1:54:51 PM (archived)

I've adressed this point several times in as many ways as I can think of from several angles and with several analogies. The fact that you think I didn't get your point seems to indicate you didn't pay much attention to the replies.

It's simple Larry because the model doesn't match data exactly you want to throw it out despite plenty of evidence the models have qualitative validity. The idea that some unknown factor will magically balance out CO2's heat trapping effects is just silly. The negative feedback loops you mention as possibilities have no reason to balance out just so. Any such loops are more likely to overcool than balance out unless you have a model showing some sort of equilibrium point. The convenient no impact scenario is just plain unlikely.

Regards,
Mark

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Perspective on Global Warming - p - 5/31/2002 9:21:17 AM
- Re: Perspective on Global Warming - Mark Eby - 5/31/2002 9:36:21 AM
  - Re: Perspective on Global Warming - p - 5/31/2002 10:02:30 AM
    - PS On Economic Disasters - Mark Eby - 6/1/2002 11:28:53 AM
    - Perspective On Cumulative Effects & Ignoring Risks - Mark Eby - 5/31/2002 11:49:39 AM
      - Choosing - Bowser - 5/31/2002 2:24:14 PM
        
        Re: Choosing - Tom Brosz - 5/31/2002 3:21:28 PM
        
        Re: Choosing - John O'Halloran - 6/1/2002 7:26:07 PM
        
        Political agenda - Bowser - 6/1/2002 8:11:36 AM
        
        Re: Political agenda - Tom Brosz - 6/1/2002 6:15:28 PM
      - Computer models are only as good as their underlying understanding... - Larry J - 5/31/2002 12:57:19 PM
        
        Re: Computer models are only as good as their underlying understanding... - Johannes - 6/2/2002 6:06:00 PM
        
        More Notes On Computer models - Mark Eby - 6/2/2002 9:16:51 AM
        
        The complexity of the climate is far beyond any other computer model - Larry J - 6/2/2002 1:07:09 PM
        
        Don't Think So - Mark Eby - 6/2/2002 2:43:40 PM
        
        Show me a single validated climate model and I'll listen - Larry J - 6/3/2002 12:49:52 PM
        
        GIGO & Missing Simple Points - Mark Eby - 6/3/2002 3:34:16 PM
        
        And you're still missing the obvious - Larry J - 6/4/2002 12:25:10 PM
        
        I Got The Point 3 Posts Ago & Strongly Disagree - Mark Eby - 6/4/2002 1:54:51 PM
        
        Yes And - Mark Eby - 5/31/2002 3:03:20 PM
        
        But we know the models are poor - E.P. Grondine - 6/1/2002 5:30:26 PM
        
        More On The Listserve Impact Expert - Mark Eby - 6/1/2002 11:19:08 AM
        
        We Know Peiser No Climate Expert - Mark Eby - 6/1/2002 9:11:46 AM
        
        In your judgement - E.P. Grondine - 6/1/2002 10:21:03 AM
        
        And Peiser's Climate Credentials Are? - Mark Eby - 6/1/2002 10:50:45 AM
        
        Perhaps you should take the time to find out - E.P. Grondine - 6/2/2002 3:44:37 PM
        
        Sure - Mark Eby - 6/2/2002 4:34:30 PM
        
        Surely - E.P.Grondine - 6/3/2002 3:32:18 PM
        
        Surely You Are Always Good For A Chuckle - Mark Eby - 6/3/2002 2:56:43 PM
        
        And you are always sure good for a sigh - E.P. Grondine - 6/4/2002 8:47:40 AM
        
        I'm So Impressed - Mark Eby - 6/4/2002 1:45:25 PM
        
        Good summary of problem n/t (n/t) - gbaikie - 5/31/2002 1:41:10 PM
        
        Re: GW Discussion - PL - 5/31/2002 4:12:25 PM

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