Greg, I won't debate this.
My mother is 81 and Liberal, my brother an I are very close politically. He is Libertarian and I am Conservative. I enjoy associating with folks of all political persuasions. Bill and Hillary Clinton are scum. Their political political persuasion is the Clinton party. They are power mongers and would gleefully crush anyone who stands in their way, no matter what their political affiliation. They are scum.