"Nothing…absolutely nothing is working how we would like it to."

TB — 4/9/2012 4:30:19 PM (archived)

This isn't actually true. There are people trying to sell you something. Don't listen to them.

Look around for yourself. And stop watching TV news.

Look at the premises that started getting accepted as the thread was diverted away from forced wealth redistribution:

"No forced wealth redistribution = no health care."

"No health insurance = no health care."

"No forced wealth redistribution = immoral"

Really.

I pointed out in another post that the amount governments spend on health care for the poor every year, right now, is bumping the half-trillion dollar mark. This is an average of over three thousand dollars a year contributed by each taxpaying household in America. For health care for the poor. Isn't this "moral" enough?

But this has never been about delivering health care. It's been about giving the government a vast new power base. Liberals will accept no other solution than socialized medicine. Even if it works better.

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Just sayin' - Jody - 4/6/2012 1:40:42 AM
- Re: Just sayin' - bowser - 4/6/2012 9:34:01 PM
  - Re: Just sayin' - Jody - 4/6/2012 10:12:44 PM
- Re: Just sayin' - BuckGalaxy - 4/6/2012 5:29:00 AM
  - "Moral vacuum?" What do you think, Jody? - TB - 4/6/2012 4:17:22 PM
    - Re: "Moral vacuum?" What do you think, Jody? - bowser - 4/8/2012 9:51:08 AM
      - Re: "Moral vacuum?" What do you think, Jody? - Jody - 4/8/2012 4:18:35 PM
        
        Re: "Moral vacuum?" What do you think, Jody? - bowser - 4/8/2012 5:20:24 PM
        
        Re: "Moral vacuum?" What do you think, Jody? - Jody - 4/8/2012 5:37:39 PM
        
        Re: "Moral vacuum?" What do you think, Jody? - bowser - 4/8/2012 7:21:00 PM
        
        Re: "Moral vacuum?" What do you think, Jody? - Jody - 4/8/2012 10:54:13 PM
        
        State and Federal governments, right now, spend something like $450 billion a year on medical care for those who can't afford it. - TB - 4/8/2012 8:37:19 PM
        
        Re: State and Federal governments, right now, spend something like $450 billion a year on medical care for those who can't afford it. - bowser - 4/8/2012 9:03:30 PM
        
        What's the point of telling you anything at all? - TB - 4/8/2012 9:24:33 PM
        
        Re: "Moral vacuum?" What do you think, Jody? - RobVG - 4/8/2012 7:55:29 PM
        
        Re: "Moral vacuum?" What do you think, Jody? - bowser - 4/8/2012 9:04:50 PM
        
        "The Kid" - RobVG - 4/9/2012 3:38:32 PM
        
        Re: "The Kid" - Jody - 4/9/2012 3:47:02 PM
        
        "Nothing…absolutely nothing is working how we would like it to." - TB - 4/9/2012 4:30:19 PM
        
        Re: "Moral vacuum?" What do you think, Jody? - Jody - 4/8/2012 9:47:22 PM
        
        Re: "Moral vacuum?" What do you think, Jody? - Jody - 4/8/2012 8:11:23 PM
        
        Like I said in a different post, it's a lot easier to wear a colored ribbon and yell for someone else to pay more taxes than to actually do something. - TB - 4/8/2012 8:59:21 PM
    - Re: "Moral vacuum?" What do you think, Jody? - BuckGalaxy - 4/6/2012 7:12:45 PM
      - Re: "Moral vacuum?" What do you think, Jody? - ER - 4/7/2012 6:23:29 PM
      - When we had the tax rates of the 90s, spending was a trillion dollars less a year, in 2005 dollars. - TB - 4/6/2012 7:58:10 PM
    - Re: "Moral vacuum?" What do you think, Jody? - bowser - 4/6/2012 6:50:49 PM
    - Re: "Moral vacuum?" What do you think, Jody? - Jody - 4/6/2012 5:55:08 PM
      - Re: "Moral vacuum?" What do you think, Jody? - FrankC - 4/6/2012 7:02:09 PM
        
        Yeah, but see, under the liberal "moral code" it's not his decision. - TB - 4/6/2012 7:59:22 PM
        
        Re: Yeah, but see, under the liberal "moral code" it's not his decision. - Jody - 4/6/2012 8:34:54 PM
        
        Re: Yeah, but see, under the liberal "moral code" it's not his decision. - Jody - 4/6/2012 8:11:26 PM
- Re: Just sayin' - bowser - 4/6/2012 2:28:02 AM
  - None of the things Jody wrote made the slightest dent, did it? - TB - 4/6/2012 4:27:55 AM
    - Re: None of the things Jody wrote made the slightest dent, did it? - bowser - 4/6/2012 6:21:41 AM
      - Valuing community. - RobVG - 4/7/2012 5:30:32 PM
        
        Re: Valuing community. - bowser - 4/8/2012 9:49:56 AM
        
        Re: Valuing community. - Jody - 4/7/2012 7:21:40 PM

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