I read a story recently, don't have the search capacity that you do, that live TV from Predators was piped directly into the White House for GWBs viewing pleasure.

And do you think that civilians should have no role in determining the POLICIES under which the military will be used, the POLICIES governing what circumstances military force is appropriate, the POLICIES which determine how much should be spent on the military, or do you think that should be left to the military? There are military dictatorships around, Pakistan, etc. But even Hitler and Stalin were civilians and oversaw POLICY.

Apparently you right-wingers don't believe there are grander principles which should govern the directions in which energy companies are encouraged to grow than those of the corporations. According to you folks, there no legitimate public concerns in the effects of production. That would be POLICY.

There is no legitimate reason to even hear what issues there may be besides those concerns of the producer, according to you folks. The government shouldn't even LISTEN to those.

And from the tone of your posts, you right-wingers are PROUD of being mushrooms.

Cheney is hiding his contacts - because they have in effect told the American people to stick it, Bush-Cheney and oil know not only best, but all. Not on principle, they don't have any. Well, they do, but they don't involve the public interest, they involve narrow matters of greed.

The stripes of the right-wing come out from time to time. Here is one of them, and it's ugly. And some folks are proud of them.

Arf