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Re: Yeah, and I heard a rumor he never really existed at all . . .

<This military doco is fake, because you say so, or do you have a link -- you know, like the ones I always try to provide?

And speaking of doctored tapes, do you find any guilt here? Yes, the tapes are determined to be doctored -- using actual footage from earlier encounters. The only thing doctored here is the age of the film clips. The complicity remains real:

I have not seen Al-Jazeera's tape. I have seen a tape, and whether it's the same one, I'm not sure. The one I saw was in Arabic. Needless to say, I did not understand what was being said, unfortunately. And I was advised that what I was watching very likely was using a patchwork of clips from previous periods, along with some dialogue of more recent periods -- or commentary from more recent periods, I should say.
-- Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld


My stance will remain firm, btw, whether you can prove beyond all doubt al-Qai’da absolutely did, or did not attack. I’m really not concerned about that. I am, however, very concerned about how the real world works, and this war is not the War on al-Qai’da, or the War on Taliban -- or even the War on Usama bin Laden. It’s called the War on Terrorism, and al-Qai’da, Taliban, and bin Laden fit this shoe just fine. And I say the higher the terrorist body count, the better.

Reality speaks:
“We issue the following fatwa to all Muslims: The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians and military -- is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it in any country in which it is possible to do it... We -- with God’s help -- call on every Muslim who believes in God and wishes to be rewarded to comply with God’s order to kill the Americans and plunder their money wherever and whenever they find it.”
-- Osama bin Laden
From World Islamic Front Statement,
February 23, 1998


Condemned in his own words:
“God has blessed a group of vanguard Muslims, the forefront of Islam, to destroy America.”
-- From the Osama bin Laden videotaped statement
Broadcast by Al Jazeera, October 7, 2001


Before These Remarks, Bin Laden Was Innocent. However, Now He Is Condemned
-- Faisal Salman, As-Safir, Lebanon
October 9, 2001

A Confession Is the Most Conclusive Piece of Evidence
-- Al-Ra’i, Jordan
October 9, 2001

Misuse of the Palestinian Issue
-- Al-Ayyam, West Bank,
October 9, 2001

Bin Laden Disturbs Us; However, He Doesn’t Convince Us
-- La Vie Economique, Morocco,
October 12, 2001

Al Qaeda Is Not Authorized to Speak on Behalf of Muslims
-- Akhbar Al-Arab, United Arab Emirates
October 15, 2001

COUNTRIES WHERE AL QAEDA OR AFFILIATED GROUPS HAVE OPERATED
Albania Ireland South Africa
Algeria Italy Sudan
Afghanistan Jordan Switzerland
Azerbaijan Kenya Tajikistan
Australia Kosovo Tanzania
Austria Lebanon Tunisia
Bahrain Libya Turkey
Bangladesh Malaysia Uganda
Belgium Mauritania United Arab Emirates
Bosnia Netherlands United Kingdom
Egypt Pakistan United States
Eritrea Philippines Uzbekistan
France Qatar Yemen
Germany Russia
India Saudi Arabia
The Network of Terrorism (15 page PDF file)

It will not be a short victory, but it will be a victory.

It has and will continue to consist of a daily battle, a struggle that could well encompass the first half of this new century -- at least. It will take time, endurance, and firm resolve, but we shall have this victory. The West cannot survive with anything less.

Cheers,
Dan

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