"Give up the illusions that you are scientists. "

Closer to being one than you are, you loon. I used to think you were a remotely charming and sarchastic loon- but now I know you are just a spiteful piece of crap with a personality disorder.

"You're both woefully equipped to discuss any scientific matter indepth."

Yes, which is why I did my disertation work in empirical science under the invitation of a Nobel prize winner. They tend to waste time with the woefully equipped.

You are simply a fool with a stage, Tech one. The only sad thing is that you think people aren't laughing at you...

As to your pretentions concerning science, profundity and having some particular deep insight, I refer you (and all readers) to this post, as it sums up what I have to say about your uneducated, ignorant, ego-based, pseudoscientific bullshit:

full link here

The pertinent section:

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"That they happened to be right will not make such name-callers repentant - quite the contrary - their fragile egos will spend time trying to retaliate. (Pretty much the same way this post will probably launch a thousand tirades) ZPE was pseudo. Now the military and government researchers are throwing money at it. Nanotechnology was pseudo. Almost every other week a new break through in nanotechnology comes about. "

SDAI: If you are incapable of seeing the difference between you armchair cosmology and nanotechnology- then I really do pity you.

"Several folks here calls wave forms and vortices pseudo and are completely illiterate of the structure of the world around them"

No, we are just illiterate of your subjective grasp of profundity- Which is fine, as we all are of eachother. The appropriate and effective way to convey your sensations of subjective profundity is through art, music and poetry. Just because it REALLY REALLY REALLY seems true to you has no bering on its objective value. Most people realize this when they are still very young- its a revelation (and a developmental psychology stage) that you should seek to attain. Please consider getting professional help to realize this as it actually is a documented psychological problem that can be helped with treatment should you choose to seek it.

"The atoms in your hand have wave forms and vortices - there's nothing pseudo about them. That's not just my view it's in countless texts and universities throughout the world."

Yes, Tech- but this is no less and no more profound than saying that circles are everywhere in nature. It does not mean you can have a cosmology based on the notion of circles. It does not mean circles have any generative force in the universe. It does not mean that circles explain things.

And what you call "wave forms" are actually the common-language words we associate with a mathematical construct. To try to attribute the every-day meanings associated with those common-language words with the mathematical construct, or to try to insert the meaning of the mathematial construct into the average every day meaning of the common language words is like bringing a glass of wine to the Mona Lisa, or the Mona Lisa to a glass of wine. Incompatible types of things in this universe. Please consider getting professional help to realize this: go to college and study Physics.

"Thousands of quantum physicists all over the world are dealing with things you can't see. The quantum field isn't pseudo at all, it's only folks when confronted with the unknown and incomprehensible get a deflation "

What you have done is filter an objective and mathematical study of ffacets of the universe through your subjective and mathematically ignorant world view to create a cosmology based more off the vaguness of human language than the truth of ath and logic. Thats exactly and only what you have done.

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In conclusion:
Until you come up with a rigorous mathematical definition for your theories and connect it (either in extension of or refutation of) with peer reviewed and experimentally grounded scientific theories regarding the physical universe, and until you publish something and submit your concepts to the review of the community of physicists- then you are nothing and your ideas are nothing. You are just a little shitwit pushing a load of second-rate ufology.

Which is fine- but whenever you cross the line and start using it as the basis for dehumanizing people (homosexuals), i'll be there to publically dismantle your pathetic frontal lobes and show you for the idiot you are

Davin L.