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re: Lie: 1. an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker to be untrue with intent to deceive

Davin L. — 3/19/2004 4:14:54 AM (archived)

What you want to do is to make this about proving state of mind- and nobody can prove what anyone else actually knew. This bar of proof isn't even held up in courts of law for perjery convistions, where 'beyond reasonable doubt' applies. The way you have it, all people have to say is

"But I really believed at the time [...] Trust Me!!"

There were plenty of experts debunking both terrorist ties and WMD. Hell, I quoted and sourced DOZENS of them before the war.

And frankly 'lie or complete incompetence' is not a good choice.

Davin L.

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237 GWB & Co. lies - "Iraq on the Record" - Bowser - 3/17/2004 9:19:45 PM
- re-do that link, B, I wanna read it. (n/t) - Davin L. - 3/17/2004 9:24:22 PM
  - re: re-do that link, B, I wanna read it. - Bowser - 3/17/2004 9:33:26 PM
    - Robert, Justin- now THATS what we need! (n/t) - Davin L. - 3/17/2004 10:19:34 PM
    - Nice. - Tony - 3/17/2004 9:54:44 PM
      - "Special Investigations Division" - Bowser - 3/17/2004 10:24:13 PM
      - mining the database for Imminent/immediate/grave - Davin L. - 3/17/2004 10:18:11 PM
        
        re: mining the database - Tom Brosz - 3/17/2004 10:26:49 PM
        
        So basically you are saying: - Davin L. - 3/17/2004 10:45:06 PM
        
        re: So basically you are saying: - Tom Brosz - 3/17/2004 11:16:39 PM
        
        re: So basically you are saying: - Davin L. - 3/18/2004 4:25:09 PM
        
        Lie: 1. an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker to be untrue with intent to deceive - Larry J - 3/18/2004 7:02:31 PM
        
        re: Lie: 1. an assertion of something known or believed by the speaker to be untrue with intent to deceive - Davin L. - 3/19/2004 4:14:54 AM
        
        To make it slightly more accurate....? - Tony - 3/18/2004 3:21:20 PM
        
        re: So basically you are saying: - REB - 3/18/2004 2:38:36 PM
        
        re: So basically you are saying: - Davin L. - 3/18/2004 4:12:12 PM
        
        Nope - REB - 3/18/2004 6:24:52 PM
        
        re: Nope - Davin L. - 3/19/2004 4:11:18 AM
        
        Silly. - Bowser - 3/17/2004 10:42:01 PM
        
        If you're going to try analogies, make them accurate. - Tom Brosz - 3/17/2004 11:27:31 PM
        
        He wasn't a nice guy. - Bowser - 3/17/2004 11:44:00 PM
        
        That is an understatement. - REB - 3/18/2004 2:35:42 PM
        
        Back to basics. - Bowser - 3/18/2004 4:20:33 PM
        
        re: Back to basics. - REB - 3/18/2004 6:21:50 PM
        
        Huh! Apparently you're right on the numbers. - Bowser - 3/18/2004 6:28:50 PM
        
        re: Huh! Apparently you're right on the numbers. - REB - 3/18/2004 7:09:41 PM
        
        funny that you should criticize anyone concerning 'analogies' drawn - Davin L. - 3/17/2004 11:31:21 PM
        
        Can you be more specific? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/18/2004 1:12:06 AM
        
        how could I be more specific? - Davin L. - 3/18/2004 8:11:25 AM
        
        link didnt work? (n/t) - alcaray - 3/18/2004 5:46:47 PM
        
        Why ruin a streak (n/t) - gbaikie - 3/18/2004 7:18:07 AM
        
        nonsensical non-sequiters again? - Davin L. - 3/18/2004 7:58:27 AM
        
        Not at all. - alcaray - 3/17/2004 11:14:50 PM
        
        And anyway - alcaray - 3/17/2004 11:20:46 PM
        
        My only problem with what you said is that it's correct. (n/t) - Bowser - 3/17/2004 11:25:41 PM

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