Current Events — HabitableZone

Current Events » in reply to Ed, You really are gods gift tho the left on this board...

Looking for the RL's "facts"

"I think we are morally obligated to stay there to try to repair the immense harm we have done to that country by invading under false pretenses.... I have said this many times but apparently you never listened and just prefer to label me as 'traitorous leftie that wishes only death and humiliation for our troops' "

Ok agree there is a moral obligation to stay. Though is a self evident truth that some don't accept. It's a moral obligation because we send our troops there, and quitting before they can get the job done would disgrace their effort. We also had a legal obligation when we invaded and occupied the country- though it could be said that we met the strict legal obligation when we transferred sovereignty, this strict legal point doesn't stand up in the broader moral aspect.
RL gets 1 fact, but it's not a fact which can be used to argue against Ed's POV. So fact tally at this point is zero.
The point about immense damage under false pretense is of course not a fact- it's fantasy.

"When did what the Iraqis want ever count for shit? Did they want the sanctions? Did they want to be bombed and their infrastructure ruined? Did they want to be occupied by another country? Did they want their country to become a new hotbed of terrorism?
Do you think before you type?"

No facts here. Next:

Ed says "And every death is our fault, since everything that happens is our fault."

Did I say that? I said 2/3 of the deaths were DIRECTLY due to american acts... read the thread before going pit-bull... When a child is killed because we bomb a bad guy then yes its our fault, moron....

RL pull numbers out of his ass. No facts here.

Ed says: "Yes, the Iraqis were better off under their dictator, starving and being massacred nice and quiet, out of the way the lawzy-ass press."

THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT WE WERENT THE ONES KILLING AND MAIMING INNOCENT CIVILIANS, NOW WE ARE.

More bullshit. So far facts presented remain at zero.
Lots of handwaving. No facts.

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