re: Redux

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re: Redux

Tom Brosz — 9/17/2006 9:23:26 PM (archived)

I am really tired of spending most of my responses either pointing out what the subject of my post is, which was the destruction of the term "torture," or responding for like the fifth time to the same blind talking points.

NOTHING we do or do not do to our prisoners is going to make one damn bit of difference in how American prisoners are treated, and hasn't for over fifty years. There is zero evidence for McCain's thesis on this. Zero. His "tit for tat" theory has no basis in reality. Is there any other way I need to word this, or is that enough?

You're welcome to do the damn research. Find a situation in the past thirty years where our soldiers were taken prisoner, and they were give Geneva Convention treatment. The food, the shelter, the protection from torture, the Red Cross visits, the letters out. The works. I'll wait.

Frankly, I suspect that other than the crap the media has thrown at you, you have no idea what Bush has proposed, i.e. exactly the rules McCain put forward some time back.

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Real torture - Tom Brosz - 9/17/2006 4:22:53 AM
- Let's stamp it out. Maybe if we can catch a few of them and torture them... - alcaray - 9/18/2006 10:23:37 PM
  - George's "war" has stirred up generations of hate - Lindy - 9/19/2006 2:49:00 PM
- If all the US was doing was "making someone stand in an uncomfortable position" there wouldnt be a problem, or a discussion. (n/t) - Tony - 9/18/2006 3:49:27 PM
  - List of CIA techniques - Tom Brosz - 9/19/2006 1:29:13 AM
  - I actually agree with you on this. - REB - 9/18/2006 4:17:52 PM
- Whatever are you talking about? - David F Mayer - 9/18/2006 12:25:01 PM
- Sigh. Here we go again. - Bowser - 9/18/2006 5:00:21 AM
- re: Capital Punishment 25 years ago - Raoul - 9/17/2006 8:10:54 PM
  - How's the crime rate over that time? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/17/2006 9:29:55 PM
    - re: From here - Raoul - 9/17/2006 10:09:31 PM
      - re: From here - Tom Brosz - 9/18/2006 12:20:21 AM
        
        statistics won't save you on this issue - FrankC - 9/18/2006 6:05:33 PM
        
        re: statistics won't save you on this issue - REB - 9/18/2006 6:17:03 PM
        
        If we can put a man on the moon.... - FrankC - 9/18/2006 8:05:11 PM
        
        Yeah, it's called death. - Lee - 9/19/2006 2:42:09 AM
        
        re: From here - Laurie Street - 9/18/2006 4:07:52 AM
        
        PS - Laurie Street - 9/18/2006 4:10:15 AM
        
        Actually, I was talking about France. - Tom Brosz - 9/18/2006 4:21:58 AM
        
        Sorry to interject a data point that doesn't fit your curve - Laurie Street - 9/18/2006 5:37:26 AM
        
        Personally, I'm not opposed to the concept of capital punishment... - ER - 9/18/2006 7:26:42 PM
        
        If you are old fashioned, does that make you a conservative? - Publius - 9/19/2006 3:25:24 PM
        
        I'm not quite sure what you're getting at, Mr P. - ER - 9/19/2006 5:47:17 PM
        
        Not discussing legal issues, philosophy, or morality... - Publius - 9/19/2006 7:37:27 PM
        
        Azstrummer, below, makes some good points... (n/t) - ER - 9/19/2006 9:59:52 PM
        
        me too....except.... - azstrummer - 9/18/2006 8:59:24 PM
        
        When I was in high school... - alcaray - 9/18/2006 9:19:31 PM
        
        Would you be willing to take that to the logical conclusion? - Lee - 9/19/2006 2:51:37 AM
        
        I think he does it to get a rise out of us - Lindy - 9/20/2006 1:57:44 AM
        
        Perhaps the solution is to reserve capital punishment for corporate crime. (n/t) - ER - 9/20/2006 11:04:29 AM
        
        So why the protest? - Lee - 9/20/2006 5:35:53 AM
        
        Sure, Lee - most murders are committed by males, so... - Laurie Street - 9/19/2006 4:28:06 PM
        
        Well he asked to be shown - Lee - 9/19/2006 7:14:58 PM
        
        Is that what that was about? - alcaray - 9/19/2006 8:43:24 PM
        
        Can't imagine a mind that would think that was the next logical conclusion. Charlie Manson, is that you? (n/t) - alcaray - 9/19/2006 3:36:29 PM
- Indeed it is horrific - Lindy - 9/17/2006 5:29:31 PM
- re: Real torture - azstrummer - 9/17/2006 5:23:24 PM
  - NA attrocities - FrankC - 9/17/2006 6:08:02 PM
    - re: NA attrocities - azstrummer - 9/18/2006 5:29:53 PM
  - History - Tom Brosz - 9/17/2006 6:00:58 PM
    - Definition of torture - Laurie Street - 9/18/2006 5:51:49 AM
- We should look to North Korea to set moral standards? (n/t) - Robert - 9/17/2006 5:10:29 PM
  - Saw that coming ten miles away. - Tom Brosz - 9/17/2006 5:55:54 PM
    - I was counting on it. - Robert - 9/17/2006 8:21:45 PM
      - re: Redux - Tom Brosz - 9/17/2006 9:23:26 PM
        
        re: Redux - Laurie Street - 9/18/2006 5:42:01 AM

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