David is right below on "Occam's Razor." The burden of proof is on the "unknown origin" side of the argument. I don't have to prove every crop circle is manmade when that is the most obvious solution, particularly when there is already evidence that even complex patterns can be made by humans in a very short time.
The burden of proof is on those who must postulate an entire complex intelligence external to ours in order to satisfy their theories.
I'm human. I find the idea of aliens or interdimensional forces more exciting and interesting than a bunch of guys with tools, strings, and pyrotechnics, but you have to keep it real.
One major symptom of a theory circling the drain is when you have to postulate that a human conspiracy is creating the phenomenon to hide the "truth" behind the "real thing." Kind of like a conspiracy of hoaxters creating false Loch Ness sightings so everyone thinks the monster is a hoax instead of real, and the Brotherhood of Urquhart can laugh in their secret caves while feeding the plesiosaurs.
Note how in some minds this actually changes all the evidence AGAINST a phenomenon into evidence FOR it. You can get really warped out with that kind of thinking.
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Re: Burden of Proof
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- "Crop Circles--the Hidden Truth" (originally from Mysteries of the Multiverse)
- Re: "Crop Circles--the Hidden Truth"
- "Foggiest" idea?
- And where is the PROOF that all 4,000 of these are done by the likes of Rob Irving or John Lundberg?
- Re: Re: Re: Burden of Proof
- Re: Re: Burden of Proof
- Re: Burden of Proof
- Smithsonian Magazine
- Crop Circles: The Art of the Hoax--Smithsonian Magazine
- And you need to open your mind up just a bit
- You Need More Skepticism, Much More Skepticism!
- A case for a double O
