why should gothgirl let tb choose how to frame the debate?
he's already chosen that there is going to be a debate, what it's going to be about, where and when. why should gothgirl cooperate and respond the way he expects her to?
when you attack someone elses country, you can't blame them if they don't follow your rules whilst they defend it.
you are right about the individual vs collective moral rights, although sometimes i wonder if modern conservatives (as opposed to traditional, pre-reagan conservatives) even believe there is such a thing as "collective rights", moral or otherwise. around here lately, even the term "collective" has become a dirty word.