Off Topic — HabitableZone

Off Topic » in reply to You are, as I have pointed out more than a few times before, in error.

The frightening thing about folks like Bowser...

...is that they are usually the first to be Trotsky-ized when their socialist utopia arrives. (In short, they are short-sighted ;-)

Yes, indeed those who envision shared wealth must develop a system of enforcement - and it is this system of enforcement within any socialist system becomes worse than any capitalist system.

Yes, the socialist utopia is NEVER voluntary. By its very nature it must repress, confiscate and put down any resistance, for if anyone is a living example of freedom and has by their own abilities elevated themselves above thei lesser intellect or abled peers - it throws the whole system out of kilter.

It is this enforcement system, backed by utter ignorance, which slaughters 100s of millions of people for the collective good of the state.

Yes, Raoul points out that there are communist parties in european nations - supposed democracies. But again, all democracies are of varying calibre.

The freedoms of America are indeed unparalleled by any other nation on earth. Primarily because we outlawed communist parties from obtaining any office and slowly taking individual rights away in the endless confiscation of monies, rights and opportunities.

Yes, had the Europeans followed our lead they would not be following the US in trends and habits and cues for societal development. However the presence of the collectivist mentalities waters down progress an personal initiative. Indeed Europeans as a whole are very nationalistic.

They identify with their state and as part of a community - however it is this very community which subtly suppresses individuality or standing out from the norm in any large manner.

In America, we are patriotic - but hardly nationalistic. As a matter of fact we almost completely disassociate ourselves from our government and consider the individual, rather than the community or the state as king.

This has led to a culture of revolutionary thinkers and hordes of people struggling to distance themselves from their neighbors in either accomplishments or wealth or simply in possessions.

This makes the US seem very materialistic and shallow to the european - and the very thought of worshipping the individual is alien and repugnant to the communist and socialist mentality and doctrine.

However, this shallowness is an illusion. This system indeed is the closest thing to a utopian society because it affords unprecedented freedoms and opportunities which simply do not exist in other nations.

This is why all nations people's, if given the opportunity, immigrate to our nation - and why Americans seldom immigrate anywhere at all.

By worshipping the individual over the state - you create a more infinite approach to governance. Yes, the ideal government allows maximum freedom to the individual. Anything which hampers individual liberties lessens the government and in the US such compromises have been made for primarily security reasons.

The communist and socialists haven't yet developed enough in their mentalities to trust their fellow man to choose what is right. They believe the state always knows better because the state is backed by many people rather than a mere individual.

However - the most intelligent system must understand that one individvidual indeed can be wiser than a group of individuals of any size or number!

In the US, this is intuitively understood - though I may be the first person to put it into so many words.

So socialism and communism and any "ism" is generally inferior to the US system centered around INDIVIDUAL liberties and development.

As soon as you shift view into the collective - the individual is expendable.

Thus Trotsky simply attracted what he espoused - human expendability.

Bowser too - is completely unaware of these implications to his favorite beliefs and the "six year old" view of the world - is his and any other communist/socialists.

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