Lets torture terry nichols to find out who all was involved in th OKC bombing.... Then lets torture the Enron executives to find out who knew what, and when... Lets then torture the sniper suspects... Then lets torture Bill Gates...(ok ok he has not committed a crime but, damn it! Wouldnt that be something we could ALL support?! "General protection fault" my ass! Force him to continually reboot a PC and only get the "blue screen of death")

So, Lee, if you are wrongly accused of a crime, would it be fair to torture you til you spilled the beans? Many have been freed from death row after being proved innocent, we cannot pay them back for what they wrongly lost... now if they had been tortured, yet were innocent what would that make our government?

I dont believe torture is valid... BUT I freely admit that if MY loved ones were on the line I would hope they flay the sucker alive to get the info to stop a terrorist attack... But IF we are to be more than barbarians maybe we need to realize that being civilized puts us at a disadvantage and just accept that...

I would like to think we can get them fighting "our kind" of battle and wipe them out... As I said I have NO sympathy for these animals... I just want us to stick to our own rules