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Still Ridiculous

Mark Eby — 4/6/2003 3:14:12 PM (archived)

I was thinking of gun deaths on an annual basis, but Saddam's death toll is over a long period as well so its a fair comparison if you take away the half for suicide for which there are many alternatives. You'd also have to take away a sizable fraction of the murders which were planned rather than the result of robberies as there are many other alternatives as well if your justification were simply legal gun use. Still you would come away with somethinbg of a similar magnitude over the long term.

However, you totally ignore the democracy angle. Are you guys against democracy too? The US has not cliamed a will to "liberate" people from their democratically established laws. This is the strawman of strawmen arguments in my opinion. Totaly ludicrously related to the situation at hand.

Regards,
Mark

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Top Ten Dumb Anti-War Comments - Mark Eby - 4/4/2003 4:12:17 PM
- Re: Top Ten Dumb Anti-War Comments - phil - 4/5/2003 2:54:33 PM
  - My Post Wasn't Intended As Blanket Support - Mark Eby - 4/5/2003 3:40:35 PM
    - Yes, well understood n/t (n/t) - p - 4/5/2003 3:47:23 PM
- Top Ten Dumb Right Wing Fallacies and Strawmen - Davin L. - 4/4/2003 5:38:18 PM
  - Fallacies - Tom Brosz - 4/5/2003 6:56:50 PM
    - Re: Fallacies - Davin L. - 4/5/2003 4:38:17 PM
      - Winner of the High-Speed Spin Award - Tom Brosz - 4/6/2003 6:37:21 PM
  - Re: Top Ten Dumb Right Wing Fallacies and Strawmen - Mark Eby - 4/4/2003 6:16:26 PM
    - You can't reverse-engineer a moral justifacation for war... - Davin L. - 4/5/2003 4:54:17 PM
      - Engineers Prefer Rational Basis For Decisions - Mark Eby - 4/5/2003 6:21:54 PM
        
        C'mon Mark - LJ - 4/6/2003 7:33:47 PM
        
        You Wish - Mark Eby - 4/6/2003 3:04:06 PM
        
        Mark, the historical facts say otherwise - Davin L. - 4/6/2003 3:14:23 PM
        
        You Forgot Iran, the Misery Index, Somalia, Ruanda, Al-Queda, and Iraq - Mark Eby - 4/6/2003 3:22:14 PM
        
        Re: You Forgot Iran, the Misery Index, Somalia, Ruanda, Al-Queda, and Iraq - Davin L. - 4/6/2003 3:27:15 PM
    - Net saving of lives - Mary Anne - 4/5/2003 1:29:49 PM
      - For Once, Your Logic Is Deeply Flawed - Mark Eby - 4/5/2003 2:21:36 PM
        
        Mark, your position really is untenable. - Davin L. - 4/5/2003 5:03:19 PM
        
        We're A Democracy Not A thugocracy - Mark Eby - 4/5/2003 6:04:39 PM
        
        Not so ridiculous - LJ - 4/6/2003 7:38:35 PM
        
        Still Ridiculous - Mark Eby - 4/6/2003 3:14:12 PM
        
        Re: Still Ridiculous - gbaikie - 4/6/2003 9:07:13 AM
        
        my mistake, I thought the topic was Iraq freedom n/t - gbaikie - 4/6/2003 10:16:41 AM
        
        It Was. I thought Your Comment was on Target - Mark Eby - 4/6/2003 10:25:48 AM
        
        Not a tangent endorsed by me - Davin L. - 4/6/2003 3:48:51 PM
        
        Re: We're A Democracy Not A thugocracy - Davin L. - 4/6/2003 3:22:06 PM
        
        Refresh My Memory - Mark Eby - 4/6/2003 3:29:24 PM
        
        Re: Refresh My Memory - Davin L. - 4/6/2003 3:40:59 PM
        
        Link - Davin L. - 4/6/2003 3:42:50 PM
        
        Depends on whether the logic is relative or absolute - Mary Anne - 4/5/2003 2:57:54 PM
        
        Re: Depends on whether the logic is relative or absolute - Mark Eby - 4/5/2003 6:34:18 PM

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