Right now, I'm simply awestuck...

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Right now, I'm simply awestuck...

E.P. Grondine — 9/12/2003 4:59:54 PM (archived)

by your moral vacuity - the best comparison I can think of is the fleeing one gets by looking at the Grand Canyon. By way of analogy, providing you with any data contrary to the focus of your fixation may be compared to throwing a pebble into it...

Once again, Mariner 4, first close images of Mars, end of work on manned Mars spacecraft. Next Mariner images of on Mars, end of production of manned Mars launchers, specifically Saturn 1 and Saturn 5. Next Mariner images of Mars, end of work on Mars nuclear propulsion system.

The new images of Mars have not changed public opinion, but merely intensified it. Support for rovers is high, but support for manned Mars flight falls with each new set of images from there.

Mars is simply not Earth-like. Live with it.

Mark, you have excatly 1, and I mean exactly 1, hope of keeping the manned space infrastruture intact after ISS, so that it may possibly used at that time for manned Mars flight, and that is by supporting the construction of man tended Moon based telescopes.

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Time to make some difficult decisions - phil - 8/27/2003 1:43:33 PM
- NASA Has Had No Clear Goal Or Timetable For Human Spaceflight Since Apollo - Mark Eby - 8/31/2003 9:48:37 PM
  - Actually, since Mariner 4 returned its pictures of the real Mars - E.P. Grondine - 9/6/2003 5:33:02 PM
    - Histrorically It's When You Stopped Thinking - Mark Eby - 9/6/2003 5:47:15 PM
      - Right now, I'm simply awestuck... - E.P. Grondine - 9/12/2003 4:59:54 PM
  - re: CATS and MARS are not compatible - Raoul - 9/1/2003 4:15:30 PM
    - That's Because You Are Using A Limited Definition Of Cats - Mark Eby - 9/1/2003 4:48:51 PM
      - re: Reliability, frequent use.... - Raoul - 9/1/2003 6:05:50 PM
        
        HLLV Yes - Mark Eby - 9/1/2003 6:12:48 PM
- re: What will come out of it? - Raoul - 8/29/2003 4:33:58 PM
  - We've gone thru decades of no Presidential leadership of the space program (n/t) - p - 8/29/2003 5:43:48 PM
    - re: This is very different! - Raoul - 8/29/2003 7:19:49 PM
      - re: This is very different! - phil - 8/29/2003 10:14:59 PM
        
        re: Technology or human minds - Raoul - 8/29/2003 11:29:40 PM
        
        re: Technology or human minds - Marcia - 8/30/2003 1:07:24 AM
        
        re: win-win-win - Raoul - 8/30/2003 9:05:08 AM
        
        re: Yes, but - Marcia - 8/30/2003 4:02:55 PM
- Okay: Dark Horse and CAPS - E.P. Grondine - 8/29/2003 3:51:43 PM
  - re: Dark Horse and CAPS - Tom Brosz - 8/29/2003 4:09:26 PM
    - re: Black Horse and CAPS - E.P. Grondine - 8/31/2003 8:13:50 PM
      - still not sober after all this time ? - Buster - 9/5/2003 1:52:29 PM
      - Do I Really Need To Rap Your Knuckles With Steele's CCNet Message Again? - Mark Eby - 8/31/2003 10:07:00 PM
        
        You have exactly 1 chance of ever seeing manned Mars flight, and that is by supporting Moon based astronomy - E.P. Grondine - 9/3/2003 6:24:40 PM
        
        re: Yeah sure your are now desperate and clueless... - Chris Vancil - 9/3/2003 11:48:25 PM
        
        Real Clear You Don't Know What Your Talking About - Mark Eby - 9/3/2003 9:56:45 PM
        
        The data - E.P. Grondine - 9/6/2003 5:40:59 PM
        
        Non Causa Pro Causa - Chris Vancil - 9/6/2003 8:08:17 PM
        
        Those Aren't Opinion Polls EP - Mark Eby - 9/6/2003 5:52:56 PM
        
        Yes, as the depths of your moral vacuity are truly outrageous - E.P. Grondine - 9/3/2003 6:12:13 PM
        
        Lasers?! WTF are your credentials? - R.L. - 9/6/2003 3:36:05 AM
        
        Would you settle for 7 Phds? - E.P. Grondine - 9/6/2003 5:47:58 PM
        
        NOPE - R.L. - 9/12/2003 3:08:07 AM
        
        re: So you have no credentials? Thus hang out 7 other peoples as some how your own? (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/6/2003 8:12:37 PM
        
        Heh,...Heh,..Hehehe - Buster - 9/5/2003 12:36:09 AM
        
        Expert Commentary Exposes EP's Ignorance - Mark Eby - 9/4/2003 6:13:45 PM
        
        re: Expert Commentary Exposes EP's Ignorance - E.P. Grondine - 9/6/2003 5:36:53 PM
        
        Caps Link - Mark Eby - 9/4/2003 6:18:25 PM
        
        re: Your Current Mental Vacuity - Mark Eby - 9/3/2003 9:45:14 PM
        
        rYou Are Proof Some People Only Get More Ignorant With Age - Mark Eby - 9/3/2003 9:36:05 PM
- re: It depends on one person... - Raoul - 8/28/2003 6:00:25 PM
  - Sorry if concern about 3000 American deaths takes priority over the space program - Larry J - 8/28/2003 7:22:38 PM
    - re:Responding to challenges - Raoul - 8/28/2003 9:48:24 PM
    - re: You are creating a strawman! Where did he say Bush's problems are from 9/11? - Chris Vancil - 8/28/2003 7:33:54 PM
      - This is rapidly getting off topic - Larry J - 8/29/2003 2:18:02 PM
        
        re: This is rapidly getting off topic - Chris Vancil - 8/29/2003 7:49:05 PM
        
        Israeli exapansion and Moslem economic embargo - E.P. Grondine - 8/29/2003 3:38:38 PM
- another voice asking the right questions - phil - 8/27/2003 10:39:42 PM
  - re: Right questions? Whos right questions? They don't fit my agenda and they seem over all pretty naive! (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 8/27/2003 10:52:38 PM
- re: Time to make some difficult decisions - gbaikie - 8/27/2003 9:29:38 PM
- re: But....... - Raoul - 8/27/2003 2:35:24 PM
  - Perhaps it would be better if we went back to the NACA model - Larry J - 8/27/2003 9:39:58 PM
    - Dark Hourse and CAPS - E.P. Grondine - 8/29/2003 3:40:32 PM
  - re: But....... Agreement - phil - 8/27/2003 5:07:46 PM
    - Louis & Clark redux - Lee - 8/29/2003 6:58:33 AM
      - Ahem...Lewis. (n/t) - et - 8/29/2003 4:49:20 PM
        
        Yeah, him too. LOL - Lee - 8/30/2003 1:17:02 AM

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