HLLV Yes

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HLLV Yes

Mark Eby — 9/1/2003 6:12:48 PM (archived)

That doesn't mean it's not CATS if it uses much cheaper technology. Just using the magnum configuration for HLLV reduces costs by about 70% because it uses the same system as the shuttle put 3 to 4 times as much mass in LEO. That's without any major advances in technology.

Regards,
Mark

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Time to make some difficult decisions - phil - 8/27/2003 1:43:33 PM
- NASA Has Had No Clear Goal Or Timetable For Human Spaceflight Since Apollo - Mark Eby - 8/31/2003 9:48:37 PM
  - Actually, since Mariner 4 returned its pictures of the real Mars - E.P. Grondine - 9/6/2003 5:33:02 PM
    - Histrorically It's When You Stopped Thinking - Mark Eby - 9/6/2003 5:47:15 PM
      - Right now, I'm simply awestuck... - E.P. Grondine - 9/12/2003 4:59:54 PM
  - re: CATS and MARS are not compatible - Raoul - 9/1/2003 4:15:30 PM
    - That's Because You Are Using A Limited Definition Of Cats - Mark Eby - 9/1/2003 4:48:51 PM
      - re: Reliability, frequent use.... - Raoul - 9/1/2003 6:05:50 PM
        
        HLLV Yes - Mark Eby - 9/1/2003 6:12:48 PM
- re: What will come out of it? - Raoul - 8/29/2003 4:33:58 PM
  - We've gone thru decades of no Presidential leadership of the space program (n/t) - p - 8/29/2003 5:43:48 PM
    - re: This is very different! - Raoul - 8/29/2003 7:19:49 PM
      - re: This is very different! - phil - 8/29/2003 10:14:59 PM
        
        re: Technology or human minds - Raoul - 8/29/2003 11:29:40 PM
        
        re: Technology or human minds - Marcia - 8/30/2003 1:07:24 AM
        
        re: win-win-win - Raoul - 8/30/2003 9:05:08 AM
        
        re: Yes, but - Marcia - 8/30/2003 4:02:55 PM
- Okay: Dark Horse and CAPS - E.P. Grondine - 8/29/2003 3:51:43 PM
  - re: Dark Horse and CAPS - Tom Brosz - 8/29/2003 4:09:26 PM
    - re: Black Horse and CAPS - E.P. Grondine - 8/31/2003 8:13:50 PM
      - still not sober after all this time ? - Buster - 9/5/2003 1:52:29 PM
      - Do I Really Need To Rap Your Knuckles With Steele's CCNet Message Again? - Mark Eby - 8/31/2003 10:07:00 PM
        
        You have exactly 1 chance of ever seeing manned Mars flight, and that is by supporting Moon based astronomy - E.P. Grondine - 9/3/2003 6:24:40 PM
        
        re: Yeah sure your are now desperate and clueless... - Chris Vancil - 9/3/2003 11:48:25 PM
        
        Real Clear You Don't Know What Your Talking About - Mark Eby - 9/3/2003 9:56:45 PM
        
        The data - E.P. Grondine - 9/6/2003 5:40:59 PM
        
        Non Causa Pro Causa - Chris Vancil - 9/6/2003 8:08:17 PM
        
        Those Aren't Opinion Polls EP - Mark Eby - 9/6/2003 5:52:56 PM
        
        Yes, as the depths of your moral vacuity are truly outrageous - E.P. Grondine - 9/3/2003 6:12:13 PM
        
        Lasers?! WTF are your credentials? - R.L. - 9/6/2003 3:36:05 AM
        
        Would you settle for 7 Phds? - E.P. Grondine - 9/6/2003 5:47:58 PM
        
        NOPE - R.L. - 9/12/2003 3:08:07 AM
        
        re: So you have no credentials? Thus hang out 7 other peoples as some how your own? (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 9/6/2003 8:12:37 PM
        
        Heh,...Heh,..Hehehe - Buster - 9/5/2003 12:36:09 AM
        
        Expert Commentary Exposes EP's Ignorance - Mark Eby - 9/4/2003 6:13:45 PM
        
        re: Expert Commentary Exposes EP's Ignorance - E.P. Grondine - 9/6/2003 5:36:53 PM
        
        Caps Link - Mark Eby - 9/4/2003 6:18:25 PM
        
        re: Your Current Mental Vacuity - Mark Eby - 9/3/2003 9:45:14 PM
        
        rYou Are Proof Some People Only Get More Ignorant With Age - Mark Eby - 9/3/2003 9:36:05 PM
- re: It depends on one person... - Raoul - 8/28/2003 6:00:25 PM
  - Sorry if concern about 3000 American deaths takes priority over the space program - Larry J - 8/28/2003 7:22:38 PM
    - re:Responding to challenges - Raoul - 8/28/2003 9:48:24 PM
    - re: You are creating a strawman! Where did he say Bush's problems are from 9/11? - Chris Vancil - 8/28/2003 7:33:54 PM
      - This is rapidly getting off topic - Larry J - 8/29/2003 2:18:02 PM
        
        re: This is rapidly getting off topic - Chris Vancil - 8/29/2003 7:49:05 PM
        
        Israeli exapansion and Moslem economic embargo - E.P. Grondine - 8/29/2003 3:38:38 PM
- another voice asking the right questions - phil - 8/27/2003 10:39:42 PM
  - re: Right questions? Whos right questions? They don't fit my agenda and they seem over all pretty naive! (n/t) - Chris Vancil - 8/27/2003 10:52:38 PM
- re: Time to make some difficult decisions - gbaikie - 8/27/2003 9:29:38 PM
- re: But....... - Raoul - 8/27/2003 2:35:24 PM
  - Perhaps it would be better if we went back to the NACA model - Larry J - 8/27/2003 9:39:58 PM
    - Dark Hourse and CAPS - E.P. Grondine - 8/29/2003 3:40:32 PM
  - re: But....... Agreement - phil - 8/27/2003 5:07:46 PM
    - Louis & Clark redux - Lee - 8/29/2003 6:58:33 AM
      - Ahem...Lewis. (n/t) - et - 8/29/2003 4:49:20 PM
        
        Yeah, him too. LOL - Lee - 8/30/2003 1:17:02 AM

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