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re: The 9-11/flag/commercial flap

Larry J — 3/5/2004 2:57:01 PM (archived)

Bush is going to run on and be held accountable for his record in office. There's no rational way to deny that 9-11 was the pivotal event of his administration. The attack and how he handled it will be among the highest considerations for whether he'll win reelection or not.

Kerry served honorably for 4 months in Vietnam. He certainly has the right to be proud of that, as he points out in virtually every speech and interview. However, he bristles when someone brings up his record since he came home. Should he be held accountable for his antiwar activities, especially his senate testimony where he accused the majority of Vietnam veterans of being war criminals? Not if Kerry can help it. Should he be held accountable for his voting record in the Senate? Not if Kerry can help it. However, take away his record for the 30+ years since he came home and what do you have left except those 4 months in country. Is that enough in the way of qualifications to be president?

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The 9-11/flag/commercial flap - Davin L. - 3/5/2004 1:52:58 AM
- A feeble bluff by democrats with a very hand (n/t) - ebnelson - 3/7/2004 1:53:01 AM
  - Was that intended to be a meaningful statement? Or did you just have your random noise generator turned on... (n/t) - Davin L. - 3/7/2004 3:54:38 AM
    - >sigh< 'very' weak hand. thanks for paying attention. (n/t) - ebnelson - 3/8/2004 5:19:57 AM
- This is the same prez who won't permit news coverage of returning dead soldiers? - alcaray - 3/5/2004 7:10:51 PM
  - He's enforcing federal law. Imagine that! - Larry J - 3/5/2004 7:37:55 PM
    - If you've followed the story at all, - alcaray - 3/5/2004 8:31:26 PM
  - You're falling into the Strawman trap... - Scott Evil - 3/5/2004 7:25:50 PM
- I think the comercial is excellent and pulls on the heart strings. - Scott Evil - 3/5/2004 7:02:56 PM
  - The best propaganda does just that. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 3/6/2004 1:21:31 PM
- re: The 9-11/flag/commercial flap - Larry J - 3/5/2004 2:57:01 PM
  - Still having problems with that 'reading' thing? - Davin L. - 3/5/2004 6:07:07 PM
    - Selective Indignation - Larry J - 3/5/2004 7:16:21 PM
      - re: Selective Indignation - Davin L. - 3/5/2004 8:31:47 PM
      - Forgot to close the quotation mark - Larry J - 3/5/2004 8:06:16 PM
      - Trying again with the link - Larry J - 3/5/2004 8:05:22 PM
- If Kerry hadn't betrayed the war by denying he supported it - ebnelson - 3/5/2004 6:43:26 AM
- re: The 9-11/flag/commercial flap - Justin Kelly - 3/5/2004 5:19:19 AM
  - You're exactly right Justin. The ad was a strawman ad, and the Kerry folks unwhitingly walked right into the trap. - Scott Evil - 3/5/2004 7:12:55 PM
    - Exercise for student: Get a basic text on rhetoric or logic and look up Strawman, then look up red herring (n/t) - Davin L. - 3/5/2004 8:41:39 PM
      - Thanks for the lesson in logic! Actually I think we are both wrong: It's a "Bait and Switch" - Scott Evil - 3/8/2004 12:28:18 AM
  - Quickly now, more later - Davin L. - 3/5/2004 6:12:19 AM
    - Actually, it's "leftist psycho hose beast." - Tom Brosz - 3/5/2004 6:22:22 AM
- re: The 9-11/flag/commercial flap - Justin - 3/5/2004 5:19:09 AM
- P.S. - Tom Brosz - 3/5/2004 2:46:59 AM
  - Thats the most dense thing I have ever heard you say. - Davin L. - 3/5/2004 4:12:54 AM
    - re: Thats the most dense thing I have ever heard you say. - gbaikie - 3/5/2004 6:35:18 AM
      - re: Thats the most dense thing I have ever heard you say. - Davin L. - 3/5/2004 5:50:30 PM
      - hehe - ebnelson - 3/5/2004 1:49:53 PM
    - Name one. - Tom Brosz - 3/5/2004 4:31:14 AM
  - re: P.S. - Odin - 3/5/2004 4:03:54 AM
    - Especially focus on those steps the Bush Admin should have done from 1993 through 2000 (n/t) - ebnelson - 3/5/2004 2:48:57 PM
    - Come to the aid of your party - Tom Brosz - 3/5/2004 4:18:13 AM
      - Hey Tom, I'll chip in ;-) (n/t) - Justin Kelly - 3/5/2004 4:58:18 AM
      - As usual, nuance escapes you - Odin - 3/5/2004 4:56:49 AM
        
        Thanks for admiting that Clinton was responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing. - Scott Evil - 3/8/2004 12:38:15 AM
        
        And if you COULD follow my logic, you'd have even more fun! - Odin - 3/8/2004 2:32:36 AM
        
        Odin, even people who agree with you can't follow your logic. - Scott Evil - 3/8/2004 6:01:36 PM
        
        "Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish" -- Euripedes - Odin - 3/9/2004 12:01:33 AM
        
        re: As usual, nuance escapes you - RobVG - 3/5/2004 6:14:13 PM
        
        Responsibility - Odin - 3/8/2004 3:40:45 AM
        
        re: Responsibility - RobVG - 3/9/2004 12:29:39 AM
        
        re: Responsibility - Odin - 3/9/2004 3:04:56 AM
        
        re: Responsibility - RobVG - 3/9/2004 4:51:24 PM
        
        re: Responsibility - Odin - 3/9/2004 8:54:42 PM
  - Isn't watching GWB & Co. dodge the 9-11 commission is enough to make his use of it offensive. - Bowser - 3/5/2004 2:59:28 AM
    - Proving a negative - Tom Brosz - 3/5/2004 4:05:19 AM
      - Just like the ufoologists - ebnelson - 3/5/2004 1:51:10 PM
      - It's done all the time. - Bowser - 3/5/2004 11:59:56 AM
      - re: Proving a negative - Davin L. - 3/5/2004 4:21:00 AM
- re: The 9-11/flag/commercial flap - Tom Brosz - 3/5/2004 2:30:21 AM
  - re: The 9-11/flag/commercial flap - Davin L. - 3/5/2004 4:18:43 AM

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