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re: The 9-11/flag/commercial flap

Davin L. — 3/5/2004 4:18:43 AM (archived)

"Tell ya what...if Kerry manages to get all the way through this campaign without using upsetting Vietnam footage, I'll get back to you. "

Like it or not, Kerry fought in that war. He has earned that right to barrage us with reminders of that. I would prefer he didn't and I don't think it will be a 'winning' tactic- but its an apples and oranges comparison. If Bush was one of those fire-fighters or was even in new york when it happened- then this would be a different story and you would not hear me complaining.

"The modern Democratic Party doesn't wear patriotism very comfortably, and it irritates the hell out of them when Bush appeals to it. It was the same with Reagan. I'm sure reminding America that we were attacked is also annoying to the Democrats,"

How is this about the Democratic party? In what way does this bear on the statement: "The imagery and use of 9-11 in this campaign add was offensive and in poor taste.". It doesn't at all. Funny that.

If all your arguments boil down to: "bu-bu-bu-but they are BADBADBADBADBAD people mo-mo-momy!" then you have nothing to say and your responses to this issue are simply partisan, predictable and poorly considered.

Davin L.

The whole thread (52 posts)

The 9-11/flag/commercial flap - Davin L. - 3/5/2004 1:52:58 AM
- A feeble bluff by democrats with a very hand (n/t) - ebnelson - 3/7/2004 1:53:01 AM
  - Was that intended to be a meaningful statement? Or did you just have your random noise generator turned on... (n/t) - Davin L. - 3/7/2004 3:54:38 AM
    - >sigh< 'very' weak hand. thanks for paying attention. (n/t) - ebnelson - 3/8/2004 5:19:57 AM
- This is the same prez who won't permit news coverage of returning dead soldiers? - alcaray - 3/5/2004 7:10:51 PM
  - He's enforcing federal law. Imagine that! - Larry J - 3/5/2004 7:37:55 PM
    - If you've followed the story at all, - alcaray - 3/5/2004 8:31:26 PM
  - You're falling into the Strawman trap... - Scott Evil - 3/5/2004 7:25:50 PM
- I think the comercial is excellent and pulls on the heart strings. - Scott Evil - 3/5/2004 7:02:56 PM
  - The best propaganda does just that. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 3/6/2004 1:21:31 PM
- re: The 9-11/flag/commercial flap - Larry J - 3/5/2004 2:57:01 PM
  - Still having problems with that 'reading' thing? - Davin L. - 3/5/2004 6:07:07 PM
    - Selective Indignation - Larry J - 3/5/2004 7:16:21 PM
      - re: Selective Indignation - Davin L. - 3/5/2004 8:31:47 PM
      - Forgot to close the quotation mark - Larry J - 3/5/2004 8:06:16 PM
      - Trying again with the link - Larry J - 3/5/2004 8:05:22 PM
- If Kerry hadn't betrayed the war by denying he supported it - ebnelson - 3/5/2004 6:43:26 AM
- re: The 9-11/flag/commercial flap - Justin Kelly - 3/5/2004 5:19:19 AM
  - You're exactly right Justin. The ad was a strawman ad, and the Kerry folks unwhitingly walked right into the trap. - Scott Evil - 3/5/2004 7:12:55 PM
    - Exercise for student: Get a basic text on rhetoric or logic and look up Strawman, then look up red herring (n/t) - Davin L. - 3/5/2004 8:41:39 PM
      - Thanks for the lesson in logic! Actually I think we are both wrong: It's a "Bait and Switch" - Scott Evil - 3/8/2004 12:28:18 AM
  - Quickly now, more later - Davin L. - 3/5/2004 6:12:19 AM
    - Actually, it's "leftist psycho hose beast." - Tom Brosz - 3/5/2004 6:22:22 AM
- re: The 9-11/flag/commercial flap - Justin - 3/5/2004 5:19:09 AM
- P.S. - Tom Brosz - 3/5/2004 2:46:59 AM
  - Thats the most dense thing I have ever heard you say. - Davin L. - 3/5/2004 4:12:54 AM
    - re: Thats the most dense thing I have ever heard you say. - gbaikie - 3/5/2004 6:35:18 AM
      - re: Thats the most dense thing I have ever heard you say. - Davin L. - 3/5/2004 5:50:30 PM
      - hehe - ebnelson - 3/5/2004 1:49:53 PM
    - Name one. - Tom Brosz - 3/5/2004 4:31:14 AM
  - re: P.S. - Odin - 3/5/2004 4:03:54 AM
    - Especially focus on those steps the Bush Admin should have done from 1993 through 2000 (n/t) - ebnelson - 3/5/2004 2:48:57 PM
    - Come to the aid of your party - Tom Brosz - 3/5/2004 4:18:13 AM
      - Hey Tom, I'll chip in ;-) (n/t) - Justin Kelly - 3/5/2004 4:58:18 AM
      - As usual, nuance escapes you - Odin - 3/5/2004 4:56:49 AM
        
        Thanks for admiting that Clinton was responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing. - Scott Evil - 3/8/2004 12:38:15 AM
        
        And if you COULD follow my logic, you'd have even more fun! - Odin - 3/8/2004 2:32:36 AM
        
        Odin, even people who agree with you can't follow your logic. - Scott Evil - 3/8/2004 6:01:36 PM
        
        "Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish" -- Euripedes - Odin - 3/9/2004 12:01:33 AM
        
        re: As usual, nuance escapes you - RobVG - 3/5/2004 6:14:13 PM
        
        Responsibility - Odin - 3/8/2004 3:40:45 AM
        
        re: Responsibility - RobVG - 3/9/2004 12:29:39 AM
        
        re: Responsibility - Odin - 3/9/2004 3:04:56 AM
        
        re: Responsibility - RobVG - 3/9/2004 4:51:24 PM
        
        re: Responsibility - Odin - 3/9/2004 8:54:42 PM
  - Isn't watching GWB & Co. dodge the 9-11 commission is enough to make his use of it offensive. - Bowser - 3/5/2004 2:59:28 AM
    - Proving a negative - Tom Brosz - 3/5/2004 4:05:19 AM
      - Just like the ufoologists - ebnelson - 3/5/2004 1:51:10 PM
      - It's done all the time. - Bowser - 3/5/2004 11:59:56 AM
      - re: Proving a negative - Davin L. - 3/5/2004 4:21:00 AM
- re: The 9-11/flag/commercial flap - Tom Brosz - 3/5/2004 2:30:21 AM
  - re: The 9-11/flag/commercial flap - Davin L. - 3/5/2004 4:18:43 AM

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