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alcaray — 4/8/2004 10:48:08 PM (archived)

If SS money is part of the general fund...
My understanding is that it is not. My understanding is that FICA taxes go to one bucket (call it what you will) and federal income taxes withheld go to another. The income taxes withheld are in the domain of the general fund. The FICA taxes are for SS and medicare. There requires an act of will on the part of congress and the president to consider those monies as general funds.

Oh come now Alcaray... loan repayment etc. Sorry. Just wanted you to clarify your use of the word "borrow". Don't give it another thought.

To say that Bush is dipping into SS funds is one of those intellectual lies some like to go on about. He is no more taking from SS than he is from Defense or any other budget item.

I really don't get this part. If you argued that Bush is not doing it more than many prior presidents, I'd support you. But I think that we've been raiding funds taxed for SS and medicare on a yearly basis for a long time. To claim that Bush did not do it, would be the lie.

PS: Isn't it amazing and wonderful that after the crap we liberals take about our debating tactics around here... that none of us took this opportunity to say: "You say Kerry lied, well how about this list of Bush lies?" Apologies anyone?

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Sound bite - FrankC - 4/8/2004 5:51:15 AM
- Not 'nuff sed. How is that in error? - Bowser - 4/8/2004 12:36:00 PM
  - The myth about Halliburton - JReid - 4/8/2004 2:18:12 PM
    - And you think Halliburton and subsidiaries have ONE contract? - Bowser - 4/8/2004 4:43:00 PM
      - For you and alcaray's post below. - JReid - 4/8/2004 5:30:58 PM
        
        Mystifying - alcaray - 4/8/2004 6:14:15 PM
        
        re: Not so Mystifying - JReid - 4/8/2004 6:23:53 PM
        
        re: "My point was that the appearance of impropriety doesn't make it so." - alcaray - 4/8/2004 9:02:59 PM
        
        Just for the record - JReid - 4/8/2004 9:52:21 PM
        
        Halliburton's 2003 ranking: 35th - JReid - 4/8/2004 5:38:43 PM
        
        Sorry about the link above, old list. Here is 2003 list from same site - JReid - 4/8/2004 6:06:24 PM
    - Halliburton is a liberal reflex, kind of like a cow burp. Facts have little to do with it. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 4/8/2004 4:22:09 PM
      - In public service there is often an effort to avoid even the appearance of impropriety - alcaray - 4/8/2004 4:54:49 PM
- And the hand that feeds it - Odin - 4/8/2004 7:39:19 AM
  - Lock Box? ROFLMAO - FrankC - 4/8/2004 5:00:46 PM
    - Simpletons are so easily amused. It's one of your charms. - Odin - 4/8/2004 9:33:27 PM
      - Then I take it you are amused.... - FrankC - 4/8/2004 11:31:38 PM
    - I'm trying to find this lie - alcaray - 4/8/2004 5:14:03 PM
      - re: I'm trying to find this lie - FrankC - 4/8/2004 7:01:45 PM
        
        re: I'm trying to find this lie - alcaray - 4/8/2004 10:48:08 PM
        
        taking the opportunity - FrankC - 4/8/2004 11:18:11 PM
        
        I still don't see the lie, but it is a reeking dead horse and let's leave the poor thing alone. - alcaray - 4/9/2004 2:48:02 PM
      - The government has been "borrowing" from Social Security for about 40 years - Larry J - 4/8/2004 6:57:02 PM
        
        I vaguely recall that it was the Carter admin - alcaray - 4/8/2004 9:36:54 PM
      - Hopes this helps. - JReid - 4/8/2004 6:47:36 PM

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