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Chris Vancil — 8/15/2004 5:47:34 AM (archived)

Beckett seems honest and till he told his story would seem to not have an ax to grind.

But the Swift Boaters who have given Kerry metals have two very different stories they have told about the same events. The others are angry at Kerry and have nothing to lose to support lies, they have 200 supporters. Lies are easier to perpetuated with numbers because no one would believe 200 people would lie. Exactly why that is I don't know. Logic says any number could lie. Get a clue!

Heroism during war means something to me and being cavalier about giving out metals is not something to praise or reward in anyway. If Kerry doesn't deserve metals he shouldn't have been given them by these men. They deserve as much dislike as Kerry if it's true.

But, I think this has more to do with him stabbing them in the back after his tour than what happened during it. Veterans in general do like Kerry. You didn't notice that CBS had poll numbers show a big bump for Kerry after the DNC. Yet they put them at the very bottom of and article about how the Vets don't much like him. Media bias?

No matter how you play this Kerry upped for duty he didn't have to do in boats known then to be very dangerous. That took courage.

Bush on the other hand got Daddy to pull strings to get him in the Guard. Then it would seem avoided finishing his responsibilities in Alabama when it wasn't convenient. But, what is worst seems to have pretended to volunteer for duty in Vietnam when he knew he had to few hour in the air to qualified for it.

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Mainstream media bias, nailed to the wall. - Tom Brosz - 8/13/2004 1:53:43 AM
- Headlines - Tom Brosz - 8/14/2004 8:53:13 PM
  - So? - Mary Anne - 8/15/2004 11:24:57 PM
    - re: So? - Alasdair - 9/4/2004 8:42:56 AM
- Who is Jason? - Mary Anne - 8/14/2004 1:19:32 PM
  - re: Who is Jason? - Tim McNabb - 9/1/2004 1:28:54 PM
    - I appreciate your approach to documentation. - Mary Anne - 9/2/2004 1:53:20 AM
  - Who does he have to be? - Tom Brosz - 8/14/2004 8:49:25 PM
    - re: Who does he have to be? Identifiable. - Mary Anne - 8/16/2004 12:05:27 AM
    - Kind of off the main topic - Robert - 8/15/2004 5:23:17 PM
    - BTW... - Tom Brosz - 8/14/2004 9:46:58 PM
      - Interesting. No outfit name? - Mary Anne - 8/15/2004 11:26:33 PM
        
        His e-mail address is right there. Write him a letter. - Tom Brosz - 8/16/2004 7:41:52 PM
        
        Jeez, Tom, I have four emails, but only one is traceable. - Mary Anne - 8/17/2004 7:56:16 PM
        
        re: Jeez, Tom, I have four emails, but only one is traceable. - Observer - 9/1/2004 3:31:03 PM
        
        Thank you. I'm happy you understand my point. (n/t) - Mary Anne - 9/2/2004 1:48:13 AM
        
        re: Thank you. I'm happy you understand my point. - Matt - 9/2/2004 7:58:36 PM
        
        True as far as it goes. - Mary Anne - 9/2/2004 9:26:01 PM
        
        re: Jeez, Tom, I have four emails, but only one is traceable. - Tim McNabb - 9/1/2004 1:21:25 PM
        
        And he's at Blogger, so he would have to have committed fraud to have gotten those... - Mary Anne - 9/2/2004 4:46:38 AM
        
        Fine. Have it your way. The man is imaginary. - Tom Brosz - 8/17/2004 8:47:01 PM
        
        ~sigh~ - Mary Anne - 8/17/2004 10:14:57 PM
        
        re: ~sigh~ - Jason Van Steenwyk - 9/1/2004 3:12:29 AM
        
        Yeah, and Id just like to point out what a great organization is the MBLA - Jason Van Steenwyk - 9/2/2004 4:02:18 PM
        
        PS: that was me (n/t) - alcaray - 9/2/2004 4:03:19 PM
        
        LOL! (n/t) - Mary Anne - 9/3/2004 6:52:49 AM
        
        How do I know you are the same person? - Mary Anne - 9/2/2004 1:47:27 AM
        
        re: How do I know you are the same person? - Tim McNabb - 9/2/2004 5:11:55 AM
        
        It's not so much the address as the type of address - Mary Anne - 9/2/2004 6:01:03 AM
        
        re: It's not so much the address as the type of address - tim McNabb - 9/2/2004 5:49:03 PM
        
        This whole blogger authority thing has been on my mind for a while. - Mary Anne - 9/2/2004 10:52:14 PM
        
        Please keep it up! - alcaray - 9/3/2004 5:09:48 PM
        
        Oops. Ya got me. - Mary Anne - 9/3/2004 6:29:06 PM
        
        I think there's a distinction between a purveyor of news and one of opinions - alcaray - 9/2/2004 6:33:44 PM
        
        re: ~sigh~ - Alasdair - 9/1/2004 7:57:05 PM
        
        ~tbbbthhh~ - Mary Anne - 9/2/2004 2:18:33 AM
        
        re: ~tbbbthhh~ - Alasdair - 9/2/2004 6:38:34 AM
        
        "Great Game": Jason is a spy? (n/t) - alcaray - 9/2/2004 4:09:25 PM
        
        A Gilligan's Island reference! How cute! - Mary Anne - 9/2/2004 12:09:08 PM
        
        re: A Gilligan's Island reference! How cute! - Alasdair - 9/3/2004 6:24:34 AM
        
        And this is pertinent to the main point of the discussion how? - Mary Anne - 9/3/2004 6:45:46 AM
        
        re: And this is pertinent to the main point of the discussion how? - Alasdair - 9/3/2004 8:30:05 AM
        
        Ah. Clever boy. - Mary Anne - 9/3/2004 12:11:47 PM
        
        re: Ah. Clever boy. - Alasdair - 9/4/2004 8:27:31 AM
        
        re: ~sigh~ - Jeb Hoge - 9/1/2004 2:30:01 PM
        
        Another country heard from - Mary Anne - 9/2/2004 2:25:50 AM
        
        re: ~sigh~ - Eric Blair - 9/1/2004 12:44:05 PM
        
        No, some people will never get it. - Mary Anne - 9/2/2004 2:33:20 AM
- Neil Boortz - Tom Brosz - 8/13/2004 11:20:44 PM
- re: Maybe the Mainstream Media don't want to touch it because they don't know for sure were the lie is... - Chris Vancil - 8/13/2004 3:40:14 PM
  - If they gave it 10% of the attention of the 'Bush AWOL' non-story earlier this year, it'd be a major improvement - Larry J - 8/13/2004 3:58:57 PM
    - Re; Bush being AWOL is news! He is the sitting POTUS and this isn't resolved except in your mind. - Chris Vancil - 8/13/2004 9:51:50 PM
      - You prove the main point. - Tom Brosz - 8/13/2004 10:09:12 PM
        
        re: You prove the main point. - Chris Vancil - 8/14/2004 9:49:33 PM
        
        re: the main point. - Tom Brosz - 8/15/2004 4:27:28 AM
        
        re: the main point. - Chris Vancil - 8/15/2004 5:47:34 AM
        
        Kerry and dangerous assignments - Tom Brosz - 8/15/2004 7:54:26 AM
        
        re: Any where in Vietnam was dangerous...get a clue! - Chris Vancil - 8/16/2004 9:55:06 AM
        
        Do you have any source that shows Kerry deliberately chose Vietnam over Germany? - Tom Brosz - 8/17/2004 6:43:24 PM
        
        You're making a gross exaggeration - Larry J - 8/17/2004 2:35:47 PM
        
        From the San Francisco Examiner - Larry J - 8/14/2004 12:25:09 AM
- As Tim Blair put it... - Larry J - 8/13/2004 2:02:55 PM
- ....and then there is this, ......... - Publius - 8/13/2004 12:54:34 PM
  - Still killing the messenger, are we? - Tom Brosz - 8/13/2004 5:03:17 PM
- Then there's this... - Tom Brosz - 8/13/2004 5:08:25 AM
- re: Mainstream media bias, nailed to the wall. - tony - 8/13/2004 4:02:24 AM
- The infotainment media is fighting for its political life - Gary - 8/13/2004 3:28:09 AM
  - The internet as primary news source? Oh, good! - Mary Anne - 8/14/2004 12:47:43 PM
    - re: The internet as primary news source? Oh, good! - Aaron - 9/1/2004 8:38:29 AM
      - Spoken as someone who wouldn't know what libraries do if one fell on him. - Mary Anne - 9/2/2004 3:05:36 AM
        
        re: Spoken as someone who wouldn't know what libraries do if one fell on him. - Alasdair - 9/4/2004 8:37:17 AM
        
        re: Spoken as someone who wouldn't know what libraries do if one fell on him. - A Little Observer - 9/2/2004 3:26:02 PM
        
        When you don't have anything of substance to say, attack the speaker. - Mary Anne - 9/2/2004 9:10:01 PM
        
        re: When you don't have anything of substance to say, attack the speaker. - Alasdair - 9/4/2004 8:41:09 AM

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