Not a bad outlook

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Not a bad outlook

Art Martin — 9/21/2004 5:24:47 PM (archived)

Certainly Frank, the feeling of threat I'm talking about isn't from the average Joe on the street. I'm very secure about the fact that I'm in a minority when it comes to my own feelings.

History has shown though that that same Joe citizen can get boxed into corner though when one ideaology becomes prevalent in a nation. Certainly the citizens of Germany, prior to Hitler's rise to power, were not substantially different humans than American citizens. I like to think that were I there at the time people went into survival mode and went along with the Nazis, that I would've been uncomfortable enough to have fought against it. It is likely I would've died for that resistance. Obviously, our country isn't close to that extreme but my thought is that we always have to be vigilant to keep us far from that point where the extremists get enough critical momentum to blow away the few voices of reason.

Why is it we can't be satisfied with our political ideaology simply having a seat at the table instead of needing them to completely overwhelm the other side? I would be happy to welcome the radical religious right's input on issues as long as they didn't require their ideals to have to win completely to keep them satisfied. I feel the same about the ideals from the radical leftists. A complete welfare state is a horrendous outcome for any country. It removes all ambition.

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"God bless the USA" - Art Martin - 9/20/2004 11:52:23 PM
- The tyranny of the pious majority. - Bowser - 9/21/2004 11:06:50 PM
  - As compared to the tyranny of the impious minority? (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/22/2004 6:21:33 PM
- Suck it up, if you don't like it. And God Bless you, too. (n/t) - ebnelson - 9/21/2004 8:05:48 PM
- re: "God bless the USA" - doghot23 - 9/21/2004 7:25:20 PM
- Why -- did it sneeze? - Fox - 9/21/2004 4:57:54 PM
  - Sneezing - LJ - 9/22/2004 4:34:51 PM
    - Judging from recent posts, I'd say the latter - Fox - 9/22/2004 11:01:37 PM
  - Very well-said. Thanks. - Art Martin - 9/21/2004 6:31:43 PM
- re: "God bless the USA" - REB - 9/21/2004 2:13:46 PM
- I secure enough in my beliefs to allow others to express theirs. - Lee - 9/21/2004 7:32:55 AM
  - I'm secure enough..... (n/t) - Lee - 9/21/2004 7:34:03 AM
- When you are totally comfortable with your atheism... - FrankC - 9/21/2004 1:11:07 AM
  - It seems many atheists are rather fascistic in their sensitivities. - ebnelson - 9/21/2004 8:07:28 PM
  - By itself it's not threatening - Art Martin - 9/21/2004 1:30:48 AM
    - Two different things - FrankC - 9/21/2004 4:48:34 PM
      - Not a bad outlook - Art Martin - 9/21/2004 5:24:47 PM
    - A modern phenomenon? Ever hear of the Scopes Monkey Trial? (n/t) - Lee - 9/21/2004 7:37:14 AM
      - It comes in cycles - Art Martin - 9/21/2004 5:01:36 PM
    - How about a coin with "In Allah We Trust"? - Bowser - 9/21/2004 3:43:50 AM
      - Ben Franklin wanted: "Mind your own business!" (n/t) - Publius - 9/21/2004 2:22:30 PM
      - re: .. sure, that would be better. (n/t) - Marcia - 9/21/2004 4:59:44 AM
    - As I pointed out elsewhere... - Tom Brosz - 9/21/2004 2:47:34 AM
      - re: As I pointed out elsewhere... - Art Martin - 9/21/2004 4:44:10 PM
      - Not an excuse. - Bowser - 9/21/2004 3:21:04 PM
        
        Ummm Bowser, where di he say that? - RNE - 9/21/2004 4:08:26 PM
        
        When your only response over many instances is a reference to others being just as bad - alcaray - 9/21/2004 4:24:53 PM
        
        Why I keep mentioning these things... - Tom Brosz - 9/21/2004 6:12:03 PM
        
        Impossible: "A mature human condition needs to get past all versions of philosophical collectivism." - alcaray - 9/21/2004 6:30:07 PM
        
        Sorry, there's way too much foundation that needs to be laid here. - Tom Brosz - 9/22/2004 12:12:01 AM
        
        Thats funny - alcaray - 9/22/2004 3:34:38 PM
        
        No American since Roosevelt has imprisoned an entire class of people, either. So let's not be smug about gulags. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/22/2004 7:19:15 PM
        
        You are correct. So why keep looking for these mythical folks? (n/t) - alcaray - 9/22/2004 9:06:25 PM
      - Agreed - RNE - 9/21/2004 12:50:53 PM
        
        Disagree on a point - Larry J - 9/21/2004 9:47:31 PM
        
        re: Disagree on a point, maybe not - RNE - 9/21/2004 11:59:36 PM
      - re: As I pointed out elsewhere... -thanks, Tom. (n/t) - Marcia - 9/21/2004 5:00:34 AM

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