well that settles that, once and for all ..

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well that settles that, once and for all ..

Daniel — 11/11/2004 6:18:41 PM (archived)

But it typically is personal failure and social dysfunction that create poverty.

wow, very sophisticated Tom, worthy of a big new book called 'Ayn Rand 101 for Idiots' maybe ..

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Welfare culture, continued... - Tom Brosz - 11/11/2004 5:44:12 AM
- My son graduated from a public school system in a class of 4,300 seniors. - David F Mayer - 11/15/2004 6:03:18 AM
- Why are the crappiest schools in the poorest neighborhoods? (n/t) - alcaray - 11/11/2004 10:58:49 PM
  - For starters, they aren't. - Tom Brosz - 11/11/2004 11:32:13 PM
    - Dunno about your stats, but I've volunteered to clean and paint at inner city schools - alcaray - 11/12/2004 1:01:11 AM
      - re: Dunno about your stats, but I've volunteered to clean and paint at inner city schools - Tom Brosz - 11/12/2004 4:26:49 AM
        
        Whereas, I think I pointed out a perfectly simple counter-example to refute your quoted hero. - alcaray - 11/12/2004 4:41:26 PM
        
        You painted a school. Why is that a "counter-example?" - Tom Brosz - 11/12/2004 8:19:06 PM
        
        It isn't that difficult. Maybe I expressed myself too briefly. - alcaray - 11/15/2004 6:47:39 PM
- well that settles that, once and for all .. - Daniel - 11/11/2004 6:18:41 PM
  - Just because you don't like the facts, doesn't make them idiotic. - Tom Brosz - 11/11/2004 10:17:55 PM
    - re social mobility - Daniel - 11/12/2004 2:46:14 AM
      - re: re social mobility - charles - 12/10/2004 1:38:32 PM
      - Caricature - Tom Brosz - 11/12/2004 4:37:51 AM
        
        that's good, because I don't even think I am a 'liberal' - Daniel - 11/12/2004 7:33:21 AM
    - No, I do like your facts, I just don't like simplistic prostletizing - Daniel - 11/12/2004 2:14:14 AM
      - Do talk to that taxi driver. - Tom Brosz - 11/12/2004 4:36:22 AM
        
        Some of us do talk to Taxi drivers and some of them have tragic and interesting stories - R.L. - 11/13/2004 6:03:50 AM
        
        no longer on the topic of poverty or welfare .. - Daniel - 11/14/2004 12:32:33 PM
        
        (to be precise) - Daniel - 11/14/2004 2:13:30 PM
        
        re: tragic and interesting stories - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2004 7:57:08 AM
        
        Hey Tom: you are calling me a liar. Explain, please. - Daniel - 11/12/2004 7:42:49 AM
        
        Sorry. - Tom Brosz - 11/12/2004 8:41:38 PM
        
        Fine - to a 'first approximation' - Daniel - 11/13/2004 2:17:38 AM
        
        Okay, this is getting a little out of hand. - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2004 5:39:16 AM
        
        and, I'll grant you this too - Daniel - 11/13/2004 11:15:18 AM
        
        alright, all points accepted, fair enough. Now let's put this to rest, please? (n/t) - Daniel - 11/13/2004 10:03:42 AM
        
        Another example... - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2004 8:16:56 PM
        
        No problem. - Tom Brosz - 11/13/2004 8:13:26 PM
        
        and after you've apologized, do read this study excerpt - Daniel - 11/12/2004 1:04:20 PM
        
        and while I'm waiting: - Daniel - 11/12/2004 8:39:24 AM
        
        Sure, there are people whose circumstances are their own damn fault. - Mary Anne - 11/12/2004 5:57:37 AM
        
        re: circumstances - Tom Brosz - 11/12/2004 6:25:13 AM

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