I'm sorry, but an argument that primarily consists of "I haven't a goddam clue what other practical way there is to win this war, but I insist there has to be one, so we have to change course" doesn't hold water either logically or practically.
We are on a path with a steep cliff on both sides. You can say we should back up (bail out of Iraq)--which would be a disaster in my opinion, but at least is a real point of view. You can bitch about how we shouldn't have taken this path in the first place, which is about as productive as me wishing that Roosevelt hadn't socialized retirement, but is also at least a point of view. But you can't bitch that we should be changing to another path unless you can point to one close enough to jump to.
There is no magic bullet. There is no "international support" not already on board that would somehow materialize if only the Right Person asked for it. There aren't an additional hundred thousand troops to deploy. There is no way to kill only insurgents without touching any civilians at all. There aren't reasonable people in the insurgency who want to make a reasonable deal.
I believe that what we are doing--attacking the Baathists while trying to get the Iraqis to carry more of the load while at the same time creating a government that most Iraqis will consider legitimate--is as good an idea as anyone else can come up with. Not an easy task, but possible.
And think about this: what if it works? Under Saddam, the chances of a free Iraq were absolute zero. At least now they're measurable.
Current Events » in reply to Okay, so your argument boils down to: A third party is bad and stupid. Okay, lets grant that: why the hell should we then continue on the path we are on now?
Short answer--again--because at this point there IS NO OTHER PATH.
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- re: the caissons keep rolling along
- War crime charges against Rumsfeld and Co. for their alleged role in torture at Abu
- Let it go.
- That's the conservative answer. The reality - Kerry is right about war.
- A breathtaking insight into how little liberals understand about Saddam, or the US.
- During Which Week?
- The dog pounces like cat. (oooh!)
- What does it take to not be a sucker?
- Absolute confirmation we did the wrong thing.
- So, what's the "right direction?" (n/t)
- Stop chasing illusions and stop believing your own propaganda, start looking for a realistic way out that saves as many lives on both sides as possible. Pay attention to the facts on the ground, not… (n/t)
- Another statement saying absolutely nothing.
- Another way of trying to sidestep the point.
- Fine. We can accept that you don't have any answers.
- Another way of trying to sidestep the point.
- Another statement saying absolutely nothing.
- Stop chasing illusions and stop believing your own propaganda, start looking for a realistic way out that saves as many lives on both sides as possible. Pay attention to the facts on the ground, not… (n/t)
- What does it take to not be a sucker?
- That's the conservative answer. The reality - Kerry is right about war.
