Is That Your Excuse?

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Is That Your Excuse?

Mark Eby — 6/15/2005 1:57:57 AM (archived)

Don't want to bother to think about the differences between real torture and abuses no more serious than frat boy pranks? Whoever died from having panties put on their head RL? The frat hazing incidents where people died are not the type if incidents mentioned at Gitmo. Most are due to excessive alcohol consumption of which I have seen no mention at Gitmo. Where's your scientific desire for accuracy? It appears you leave it at the office and the space board.

Again your comment on free choice is valid, but that does not even come close to counterbalancing the gross distortions of relative duress be bandied about by such as you and alcaray.

Regards,
Mark

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Gitmo's fifteen minutes might be up... - Tom Brosz - 6/13/2005 8:08:13 AM
- Don't forget those who were prisoners of the North Koreans... - Larry J - 6/13/2005 1:16:54 PM
  - Of course. - Tom Brosz - 6/13/2005 2:53:09 PM
    - So everything short of what's shown in your examples... - alcaray - 6/13/2005 3:30:36 PM
      - re: Maybe we should put Whacko jacko in charge of Gitmo. - Scott Evil - 6/14/2005 5:48:03 PM
      - No, it shows that what is being described as "torture" is bogus - Larry J - 6/13/2005 5:11:38 PM
        
        questions too hard? (n/t) - alcaray - 6/13/2005 6:17:36 PM
        
        Too damned busy to bother with silly questions - Larry J - 6/14/2005 12:44:10 AM
        
        I stipulate that many people in the history of the world have been treated very poorly - alcaray - 6/14/2005 2:40:18 PM
        
        You must have led a very sheltered life - Larry J - 6/15/2005 2:29:37 PM
        
        They hang Marines from door frames by their wrists for hours as part of basic? - Mary Anne - 6/15/2005 9:45:02 PM
        
        You'd be surprised what they do to Marine recruits (and Army ones, too) - Larry J - 6/16/2005 5:40:34 PM
        
        Oh It's Torture All Right - Mark Eby - 6/14/2005 1:48:27 AM
        
        I went through worse treatment in basic training - Larry J - 6/15/2005 2:27:42 PM
        
        You died in training? But got better? (n/t) - Tony - 6/15/2005 5:59:12 PM
        
        Why Do So Many Equate Panties On The Head With Death? - Mark Eby - 6/15/2005 11:04:20 PM
        
        Why Do So Many Equate Panties On The Head With Torture? - Tony - 6/16/2005 4:02:40 PM
        
        There Were No Incidences Of Death Listed In The Original Sources Of This Thread - ID - 6/16/2005 4:42:00 PM
        
        re: There Were No Incidences Of Death Listed In The Original Sources Of This Thread - Tony - 6/16/2005 5:25:05 PM
        
        re: Why Do So Many Equate Beatings and Death in Custody with Panties On The Head? - Mary Anne - 6/15/2005 11:32:29 PM
        
        re: Why Do So Many Equate Beatings and Death in Custody with Panties On The Head? - Mark Eby - 6/16/2005 12:39:55 AM
        
        No, but a lot of military members do die in training - Larry J - 6/15/2005 8:24:39 PM
        
        Woosh goes the point passing your head - Tony - 6/15/2005 9:09:15 PM
        
        No prisoner has died at Gitmo - Larry J - 6/16/2005 5:44:15 PM
        
        Focus, Larry, focus - Tony - 6/16/2005 6:39:13 PM
        
        Well, the original subject of the thread WAS Gitmo. - Tom Brosz - 6/17/2005 12:23:04 AM
        
        And now you are quoting Rush. - alcaray - 6/14/2005 2:42:00 PM
        
        Now You Dellusional - Mark Eby - 6/15/2005 1:51:53 AM
        
        Rush was the one who started using "frat boys" to... - alcaray - 6/16/2005 3:12:28 PM
        
        Some People Can Think For Themselves - ID - 6/16/2005 4:36:39 PM
        
        Not a very informed post, my friend. - alcaray - 6/16/2005 4:59:15 PM
        
        It's easier than thinking... - R.L. - 6/14/2005 7:43:47 PM
        
        Is That Your Excuse? - Mark Eby - 6/15/2005 1:57:57 AM
        
        Saddening and maddening, isn't it? - Sam F. - 6/15/2005 10:27:28 AM
        
        re: Saddening and maddening, isn't it? - Mary Anne - 6/15/2005 10:33:53 PM
        
        Grammar correction - Mary Anne - 6/15/2005 11:50:25 PM
        
        Sorry MaryAnne Life Isn't That Simple - Mark Eby - 6/15/2005 11:00:12 PM
        
        Trade-offs - Tom Brosz - 6/17/2005 12:29:38 AM
        
        On this one Rush is right. - Scott Evil - 6/14/2005 5:50:31 PM
        
        re: Oh It's Torture All Right - R.L. - 6/14/2005 8:56:58 AM
        
        re: Oh It's Torture All Right - Mark Eby - 6/14/2005 11:14:39 AM
        
        Face it. The left has lost it. - Scott Evil - 6/14/2005 6:01:40 PM
        
        Did you have an ounce of sorrow for these desperados? - alcaray - 6/16/2005 10:15:44 PM
        
        I'm sorry, is there an age limit on Middle Eastern fighters? - Tom Brosz - 6/17/2005 3:37:05 AM
        
        Were these "fighters", then? (n/t) - alcaray - 6/17/2005 3:05:38 PM
        
        Do you care? - Tom Brosz - 6/17/2005 10:59:11 PM
        
        One of them was not even a teenager when we took him. - alcaray - 6/18/2005 1:06:28 AM
        
        If honey and dates were the worst, then you'ld be right. (n/t) - Tony - 6/13/2005 5:19:44 PM
        
        re: the worst - Tom Brosz - 6/13/2005 6:16:22 PM
        
        Nixon didn't have to resign because of any war. - Mary Anne - 6/13/2005 7:02:04 PM
        
        I was there. - Tom Brosz - 6/14/2005 4:31:59 AM
        
        So was I. In fact, I watched the hearings. - Mary Anne - 6/14/2005 6:33:00 PM
        
        I Think Tom's Out On A Limb On This One. - Mark Eby - 6/15/2005 2:00:40 AM
        
        re: out on a limb - Tom Brosz - 6/15/2005 4:31:39 AM
        
        Drugs and the embittered remnants of old-school liberalism - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/15/2005 1:59:57 AM
        
        PS This was not an indictment of any old-school liberals here ;-) - SDAI-Tech1 - 6/15/2005 4:36:25 AM

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