re: For R.L. and others the war is not the issue...
This is about Bush, and always has been.
And regardless of the indignant protests otherwise, if Bush had never gone to Iraq, he would be getting the same crap, from most of the same people, in mostly the same rhetoric, about Afghanistan.
The Iraqi civilian dead over the past three years is STILL far less than the average killed annually by Saddam over his regime, even using conservative numbers. A simple fact that seems to utterly elude everyone here.