avoiding the question

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avoiding the question

Doug Ellison — 3/20/2006 9:02:31 PM (archived)

You mistakenly package me as a 'democrat' because I oppose the war in Iraq. This is not, nor has it ever been a political issue for me. It's simply a matter of what I believe is right and wrong. I'm a classic Tory boy ( i.e. a UK Conservative ) - technically, in the US, I believe I would be classified as a Republican. Why do you insist on packaging anyone who has a problem with this war as a Democrat. Stop trying to classify people on a single opinion - it's just childish and totally without justification.

The concept of invaiding a foreign nation should NEVER be about politics. EVER.

"They didn't make us safe, did they?"

Are you actually telling me that the invasion of Iraq has made the world a safer place. Are you really trying to say that. Please tell me you're more intelligent than that. There's a few families who lost loved ones in London last summer who might have something to say.

" To you, a successful military action is apparently defined by how many people are hurt or not"

And YOU were attempting to make the point that, obviously, everything in Iraq is utterly fantastic, because look how many MORE people died in Vietnam. That's the comparison YOU made. Clearly to YOU a successful military action is defined by hoe many people are hurt or not - because YOU made the comparison. I simply prompted you to quantify it, and you cant.

Doug

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Grim milestone... - Tom Brosz - 3/20/2006 8:35:32 AM
- Or - Larry J - 3/24/2006 3:23:57 PM
- re: Grim milestone... - Publius - 3/23/2006 9:02:14 PM
  - Definition of casualty - Larry J - 3/24/2006 3:18:38 PM
    - clearly I intended "fatality"---thanks for pointing it out.... - Publius - 3/25/2006 1:27:52 PM
- While you're crunching numbers don't forget to add in the injured. - podrock - 3/21/2006 3:36:04 AM
- Don't bother Tom. - SDAI-Tech1 - 3/21/2006 2:54:12 AM
- re: Grim milestone... - R.L. - 3/20/2006 10:47:08 PM
  - re: Grim milestone... - Tom Brosz - 3/21/2006 3:40:42 AM
    - You really seem incapable of grasping the point... - R.L. - 3/21/2006 4:46:43 AM
      - re: You really seem incapable of grasping the point... - gbaikie - 3/21/2006 5:38:50 AM
        
        You really are clueless.... - R.L. - 3/21/2006 9:38:02 PM
- Driving up the mountain today... - R.L. - 3/20/2006 10:32:16 PM
- re: Grim milestone... - Doug Ellison - 3/20/2006 3:43:00 PM
  - "Personally, the number is 1." - Tom Brosz - 3/20/2006 7:31:44 PM
    - Surely you've heard of Pyrrhic victories? - Robert - 3/21/2006 12:59:11 AM
    - It was a fair question - dtb - 3/20/2006 11:59:58 PM
      - Wait wait wait...hold on there. - Lee - 3/21/2006 6:49:52 AM
        
        re: Wait wait wait...hold on there. - dtb - 3/21/2006 7:33:43 AM
      - If that strawman was any bigger, I could take it to the Burning Man festival. - Tom Brosz - 3/21/2006 5:03:07 AM
        
        I'm still trying to picture you at Burning Man! (n/t) - podrock - 3/23/2006 3:15:29 AM
        
        re: If that strawman was any bigger, I could take it to the Burning Man festival. - dtb - 3/21/2006 7:29:13 AM
        
        re: If that strawman was any bigger, I could take it to the Burning Man festival. - gbaikie - 3/21/2006 11:50:38 AM
        
        Taiwan IS an independent country. - Lee - 3/21/2006 3:14:15 PM
        
        re: Taiwan IS an independent country. - gbaikie - 3/21/2006 11:16:00 PM
        
        re: Taiwan IS an independent country. - REB - 3/22/2006 3:02:01 PM
      - For Tom the loss of life and wealth is not the issue... - R.L. - 3/21/2006 12:05:49 AM
        
        re: For R.L. and others the war is not the issue... - Tom Brosz - 3/21/2006 5:07:42 AM
        
        "The Iraqi civilian dead over the past three years is STILL far less than the average killed annually by Saddam over his regime, " - R.L. - 3/21/2006 9:42:53 PM
        
        WHAT BS - R.L. - 3/21/2006 9:41:12 PM
        
        does that annual average include the Iraq-Iran war and the gassing of the Kurds? (n/t) - Tony - 3/21/2006 7:37:02 PM
        
        Nice try, but I can see the boilerplate response a mile away. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 3/21/2006 8:22:19 PM
        
        Unless he's invading Iran or committing another attempted genocide, those average numbers are just plain bogus. (n/t) - Tony - 3/21/2006 9:38:14 PM
        
        Your faith in Saddam's future behavior apparently exceeds mine. - Tom Brosz - 3/21/2006 10:28:38 PM
        
        To keep up his historical average - Tony - 3/22/2006 6:39:28 PM
        
        "When we invaded Iraq, there was no active program." - Doug Ellison - 3/22/2006 9:57:24 AM
        
        We were told "the smoking gun could come in the form of a mushroom cloud" - R.L. - 3/22/2006 12:13:10 PM
        
        And now we know for certain that it won't. - Lee - 3/23/2006 6:19:41 AM
        
        Yeah, but you are a bigot and an idiot- so who really cares? - R.L. - 3/23/2006 10:26:55 AM
        
        Your inability to form an argument without resorting to name calling is amusing. - Lee - 3/23/2006 8:18:40 PM
        
        re: For R.L. and others the war is not the issue... - gbaikie - 3/21/2006 5:31:17 AM
    - avoiding the question - Doug Ellison - 3/20/2006 9:02:31 PM
    - Really? How? - Raoul - 3/20/2006 8:57:12 PM
      - re: Really? How? - gbaikie - 3/20/2006 9:11:26 PM
        
        re: Really? How? - Raoul - 3/20/2006 10:42:45 PM
        
        re: Really? How? - gbaikie - 3/21/2006 2:38:03 AM
- It shows that our strategy is faulted. - David F Mayer - 3/20/2006 2:32:20 PM

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