re: Alternative fuels

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re: Alternative fuels

ljk — 4/26/2006 5:38:09 PM (archived)

Right now, the lowest gas prices of any nation are to be found in
Venezuela - try 12 cents per gallon.

Almost worth driving my car all the way down there. :^)

I wish the US woudl start SERIOUSLY thinking about the alternatives
to fossil fuels, as opposed to oil execs and their lackeys figuring by
the time we run out, they'll be long gone and it won't be their problem
any more.

Thank God the Founding Fathers didn't think that way when setting
up the nation. Maybe we can clone them.

The whole thread (42 posts)

Alternative fuels - Tom Brosz - 4/26/2006 6:21:43 AM
- Liquid coal - SteveS - 4/28/2006 1:46:53 AM
- re: Alternative fuels - Sawyer - 4/26/2006 2:51:57 PM
  - re: Alternative fuels - JimO - 4/26/2006 3:08:41 PM
- Insurance costs more than gas - SDF - 4/26/2006 10:06:51 AM
  - $250 a month for insurance! Where do you live? Iraq? (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 4/26/2006 3:15:22 PM
    - That's nothing - SDF - 4/26/2006 5:24:03 PM
      - What have you got for a damage deductible? Keep that high. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 4/26/2006 6:01:46 PM
        
        Find me an all-season, all-weather vehicle that costs less than $100/mth, all costs included - SDF - 4/26/2006 10:55:28 PM
        
        Nothing useful in all weather is going to be that cheap. - Tom Brosz - 4/27/2006 1:20:31 AM
      - Geez... - Tom Brosz - 4/26/2006 6:01:02 PM
      - re: That's nothing - Lance - 4/26/2006 5:26:46 PM
        
        In Australia - nick hoffman - 4/27/2006 10:26:07 PM
        
        That's $333/mth for insurance, a full one-third more than I would have to pay (n/t) - SDF - 4/26/2006 5:31:29 PM
        
        Actually, $333/mth US converts to $375/mth Canadian, that's 1.5-times what I would have to pay (n/t) - SDF - 4/26/2006 5:37:08 PM
- re: Alternative fuels - nick hoffman - 4/26/2006 8:57:56 AM
  - re: Alternative fuels - Lance - 4/26/2006 5:19:21 PM
    - re: Alternative fuels - ljk - 4/26/2006 5:38:09 PM
      - re: Alternative fuels - Lance - 4/26/2006 6:16:42 PM
      - re: Alternative fuels - Tom Brosz - 4/26/2006 6:15:50 PM
        
        re: Alternative fuels - ljk - 4/26/2006 6:25:54 PM
        
        Quantum energy - Tom Brosz - 4/27/2006 1:22:08 AM
        
        5 x 10^113 J/m^3 - Adam - 4/27/2006 12:12:12 PM
        
        enough Worlds??? - Adam - 4/27/2006 10:53:24 PM
        
        Only the lowest energy state is manifested (i.e. Ours) - SDF - 4/28/2006 2:52:12 AM
        
        :) Can you back this up? (n/t) - R.L. - 4/29/2006 6:52:15 AM
        
        Which part? Why cars rust? - SDF - 4/30/2006 4:20:35 AM
        
        Prove it.... - R.L. - 4/30/2006 5:10:01 AM
  - What about burning carbon dust? - REB - 4/26/2006 5:15:18 PM
    - We have laws against perpetual motion machines. (n/t) - alcaray - 4/27/2006 4:09:24 PM
      - Not a perpetual motion machine. There is energy input to get the carbon from the CO2 - REB - 4/27/2006 5:18:09 PM
        
        re: Not a perpetual motion machine. There is energy input to get the carbon from the CO2 - alcaray - 4/27/2006 9:05:54 PM
        
        re: Not a perpetual motion machine. There is energy input to get the carbon from the CO2 - REB - 4/28/2006 12:06:55 PM
        
        rREb, you are wrong about the energy imbalance of refining - nick hoffman - 4/29/2006 6:46:57 AM
        
        To be fair - nick hoffman - 4/27/2006 10:22:08 PM
    - No... - R.L. - 4/27/2006 8:13:44 AM
      - You are essentially advocating 'burning' CO2 to create CO2 - R.L. - 4/27/2006 8:21:15 AM
        
        Conservation of energy? We put more energy into finding, getting, transporting and refining oil than we get out of it by burning it in our cars. - REB - 4/27/2006 1:00:27 PM
    - Try this link. - REB - 4/26/2006 5:17:22 PM
      - One more time - REB - 4/26/2006 5:19:31 PM
  - Milestone Achieved in the Development of Biological Fuel Cells - ljk - 4/26/2006 2:28:22 PM
    - The End of Oil? - ljk - 4/27/2006 2:00:51 PM

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