But you're discounting the credibility that I value the most

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But you're discounting the credibility that I value the most

azstrummer — 9/10/2007 11:14:57 PM (archived)

My own judgment. I don't get my view on a subject from any politician or any media star. Iraq's wrong. It was from the start. Nothing Patraeus could say could change what I've been observing since the first night of shock and awe.

This is nothing more than the dog and pony show we got from General Westmoreland during Vietnam, assuring us we were making progress there.

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Petraeus presentation - TB - 9/10/2007 6:23:33 PM
- What difference does it make? - ER - 9/11/2007 7:58:04 PM
  - So what do you propose? We leave Iraq and let a Civil war turn it into a Mecca for Al Queda? - TAFKASE - 9/11/2007 8:05:04 PM
    - If we leave Iraq, the Shia will exterminate Sunni Al-Quaeda. - ER - 9/11/2007 8:14:00 PM
      - re: If we leave Iraq, the Shia will exterminate Sunni Al-Quaeda. - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/12/2007 4:24:47 AM
      - Is that the Democrat's plan? It might work if. - TAFKASE - 9/11/2007 8:30:43 PM
- re: Petraeus presentation - James Brown - 9/11/2007 3:09:22 PM
- re: Petraeus presentation - James Brown - 9/11/2007 2:57:17 PM
- Technically very sound...and completely out of touch with reality - z - 9/11/2007 3:05:43 AM
  - That's funny. I thought the surge was doomed to failure. - TAFKASE - 9/11/2007 1:45:01 PM
  - That has to be the most impressive reach I've seen yet on this. - TB - 9/11/2007 3:21:28 AM
    - The point is that the "progress" is an illusion - z - 9/11/2007 4:56:17 AM
      - Dream on... - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/11/2007 8:19:42 AM
- I will grant - azstrummer - 9/10/2007 9:23:03 PM
  - Nobody is asking the Democrats to buy everything he says with a complete pass on credibility - TAFKASE - 9/10/2007 10:02:18 PM
    - But you're discounting the credibility that I value the most - azstrummer - 9/10/2007 11:14:57 PM
      - Maybe Iraq was wrong from the start, but I am more concerned about the future than the past. - TAFKASE - 9/11/2007 1:39:21 PM
        
        There is no plan - azstrummer - 9/11/2007 4:44:47 PM
        
        There is a plan. - TAFKASE - 9/11/2007 5:09:11 PM
        
        Oh man - azstrummer - 9/11/2007 6:49:21 PM
        
        wow... No occupying nation? god save the Queen dude. - TAFKASE - 9/11/2007 8:02:03 PM
        
        What? - azstrummer - 9/11/2007 9:57:51 PM
        
        The whole concept of the US as "occupiers"... - SDAI-Tech1 - 9/11/2007 10:37:45 PM
        
        None of the mercenaries.... - azstrummer - 9/12/2007 3:43:18 PM
        
        "This current situation is unprecedented in any history I've ever read about." - TB - 9/12/2007 4:15:25 PM
        
        re: "This current situation is unprecedented in any history I've ever read about." - azstrummer - 9/12/2007 9:07:31 PM
        
        Not the same as the American Revolution? Agreed. - TB - 9/12/2007 10:08:13 PM
- Advice to the press from Michael Yon - TB - 9/10/2007 8:58:53 PM
  - On interviewing battalion commanders - dtb - 9/10/2007 10:16:39 PM
    - Good post. - TB - 9/11/2007 1:49:29 AM
- The Crocker presentation - TB - 9/10/2007 8:44:40 PM
- All I have to say about this: Term Limits... - TAFKASE - 9/10/2007 8:16:48 PM
  - We've got them - Eri - 9/10/2007 8:21:05 PM
    - WELL THEN GIVE BUSH 4 MORE YEARS! - TAFKASE - 9/10/2007 9:54:06 PM
- Jeez, hear the man out! - Eri - 9/10/2007 8:07:03 PM

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