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ARRELL — 7/14/2008 4:35:53 AM (archived)

http://www.habitablezone.com/currentevents/messages/499908.html

For the record, I am pretty damn pissed at Obama's vote- he knuckled under to politics, casting a morally wrong vote in order to thwart potential campaign attacks by McCain. I condemn it.

I dont know of many here defending his act except a post by z:

http://www.habitablezone.com/currentevents/messages/516754.html
which in my view exhibits blind partisanship.

But you also used to give a damn about threats to our civil liberties... long ago...

http://www.habitablezone.com/currentevents/messages/250164.html

Now you blindly defend it all unthinkingly... What happened to you?

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And I thought it was the hedge funds that were next. - Yeti - 7/11/2008 3:23:05 PM
- Update: Looks like the Fed is going to try to 'print' its way out of this crisis as well - Yeti - 7/14/2008 4:06:48 AM
  - Been doing that for years. - TB - 7/14/2008 5:13:47 AM
    - Which? - Yeti - 7/14/2008 3:35:06 PM
      - Was referring to the Fed "printing" its way out of financial issues. - TB - 7/14/2008 3:53:43 PM
        
        Your comments make no sense - Yeti - 7/14/2008 8:43:15 PM
        
        No, I suppose they don't. (n/t) - TB - 7/14/2008 11:09:27 PM
- Another commentary on this subject - TB - 7/12/2008 10:34:00 PM
- I vant to dlink yor blaaad. - ER - 7/11/2008 5:11:19 PM
- Mortgage subsidies - TB - 7/11/2008 3:40:19 PM
  - "Mortgage subsidies"? - Robert - 7/12/2008 5:39:19 PM
    - Wow! - ER - 7/12/2008 8:24:48 PM
      - re: Wow - TB - 7/12/2008 9:45:09 PM
        
        All I recall you saying about the subject a year ago was... - alcaray - 7/13/2008 6:39:05 PM
        
        Not quite a year ago.... - ARRELL - 7/13/2008 9:09:45 PM
        
        And which of those numbers were incorrect? - TB - 7/13/2008 10:31:52 PM
        
        You consistently claimed the problem was fabricated... - ARRELL - 7/13/2008 10:38:11 PM
        
        No. - TB - 7/13/2008 11:00:54 PM
        
        A bit more Fannie Mae history, as a sidebar. - TB - 7/13/2008 11:10:28 PM
        
        YES...and ANYONE able to read can see what you were doing and what you are trying to get away with now.... - ARRELL - 7/13/2008 11:06:10 PM
        
        Have it your way. We're doomed. - TB - 7/13/2008 11:27:14 PM
        
        I looked, nothing I found was as asinine as THIS: - ARRELL - 7/14/2008 1:46:59 AM
        
        Didn't think you'd bother. - TB - 7/14/2008 3:24:31 AM
        
        FISA - ARRELL - 7/14/2008 4:35:53 AM
        
        re: FISA - TB - 7/14/2008 5:01:24 AM
        
        "What do you think?"- Did you even read my post? - ARRELL - 7/14/2008 5:23:50 AM
        
        But you're voting for him, aren't you? - TB - 7/14/2008 5:26:19 PM
        
        And what are our choices? - Yeti - 7/14/2008 9:40:39 PM
        
        Ahhhh- the good old days... - ARRELL - 7/14/2008 2:06:54 AM
        
        re: Ahhhh- the good old days... - TB - 7/14/2008 3:33:34 AM
        
        Where did I say we were doomed? - ARRELL - 7/13/2008 11:33:15 PM
        
        "slid around??" - TB - 7/13/2008 11:40:12 PM
        
        8^) People can read the quotes from you for themselves and draw their own conclusions... - ARRELL - 7/13/2008 11:45:38 PM
        
        PS- see the thread below (n/t) - ARRELL - 7/14/2008 12:16:57 AM
        
        Though I must admit dumbfounded admiration at your research skills. (n/t) - alcaray - 7/13/2008 9:54:20 PM
        
        ipsa scientia potestas est - ARRELL - 7/13/2008 10:06:49 PM
        
        re: Though I must admit dumbfounded admiration at your research skills. - ARRELL - 7/13/2008 9:57:44 PM
        
        Well I wasn't really trying to point the finger at Tom so much... - alcaray - 7/13/2008 9:53:18 PM
        
        re: Wow - ER - 7/13/2008 12:02:37 AM
        
        Actually, "collectivism" isn't the issue. - TB - 7/13/2008 5:26:42 AM
        
        Corporations are not private companies. - ER - 7/13/2008 12:26:49 PM
        
        If you notice Robert's "blame the victim" post below... - TB - 7/13/2008 5:34:38 AM
        
        I don't think its a silly concept at all. - ER - 7/13/2008 12:06:50 PM
        
        Same as it ever was - Robert - 7/13/2008 5:41:19 PM
        
        Then maybe you'll agree that... - Lee - 7/13/2008 7:07:27 PM
        
        You do know you're pretty much just underlining my point, right? (n/t) - TB - 7/13/2008 6:35:12 PM
        
        Reality check - TB - 7/13/2008 6:45:23 PM
        
        re: Reality check - ER - 7/13/2008 7:11:21 PM
        
        You know, that really wasn't the point. - TB - 7/13/2008 7:41:05 PM
        
        That's what we've been trying to tell you. (n/t) - ER - 7/13/2008 8:51:02 PM
        
        "Imagine the kind of world we'd be living in if Big Business and the wealthy elites had their way."- No need to imagine - ARRELL - 7/13/2008 5:54:15 PM
    - Worst of all possible worlds - TB - 7/12/2008 6:08:31 PM
      - blame the victim? - Robert - 7/12/2008 7:43:23 PM
        
        Blame - TB - 7/12/2008 8:22:24 PM
      - BTW... - TB - 7/12/2008 6:34:33 PM
  - I bought my house the old-fashioned way - Eri - 7/12/2008 3:30:47 AM
    - Same here. - TB - 7/12/2008 3:42:19 AM
      - re: Same here. - Eri - 7/13/2008 6:23:45 PM
  - "The Price of Fannie Mae" - TB - 7/11/2008 5:04:28 PM
    - Thanks TB for the link... - Jody - 7/12/2008 2:54:08 AM

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