is that despite the labeling that goes on here, I'm quite the fiscal conservative as well. I despise being in debt and make sure we don't overextend ourselves. My wife's the same way.

My whole thing with the social programs I want the US to take part in is not to spend more of the taxpayer's money but instead to spend it more efficiently. I'd rather spend it up front on programs like universal health care than waste it when the uninsured end up in emergency rooms. I don't want the cost of all my products to be artificially increased because companies have to pick up bad debt when folks go bankrupt because they couldn't afford expensive health care treatment. I don't want the company I work for to have to be responsible for my health care costs. I'd rather they make higher profits and pay me more up front. I'll gladly then pay the taxes to ensure the fat cats at United Health Care or Cigna don't take a huge portion of my medical dollar.

At the same time I rail against the abuses of labor unions when they go far beyond what their original design was intended and only look out for the people at the top of the seniority list.

Some government spending though does not increase the debt because it creates the incentives for industries to expand and eventually the money comes back in the taxes it generates. It's a fine line to walk to find the efficiency. People on extremes of both philosophies will always try to abuse the system.

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