I never thought of it in that way TB.

I can only go by my experiences because I do not know history like you and ER for example. My observations come from observing the nuances of the here and now...in a manner of speaking. [ That is me..always in the here and now] I am having a hard time realizing I am perhaps a product of subtle propoganda that has quietly permeated our culture. Blatant *in your face* I can decipher. The insidious is much more difficult because I have the uncanny ability and CURSE to see several sides of issues....and so I end up shelving issues because my brain hurts.

I can not talk about this question at this time because quite honestly...I have to observe *me* first in order to understand if I am guilty of Man [good] vs Machine [bad]

I know that was my initial post...however...your question has me rethinking.

Thank you!!