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Both Jews and Arab Palestinians have a right to live in their homeland

But you're very incorrect in claiming that Palestinians somehow have a greater right to the land because they were there 'first'. The truth is that they weren't. Many peoples of many different races, religions, different cultures, etc. have come and gone over the centuries, over the millenia, in the region that is referred to as 'Palestine'. The fact that an overwhelmingly dominant Arab, mostly Muslim, identity is attached to the people currently referred to as 'Palestinians', and claiming the land as theirs, and only theirs, speaks much more to the historical bloody and imperialistic nature of Islam and the Arabs than anything else. Why is there no Kurdish nor Berber nation in Arabia? Nor any other nation founded by a non-Arab minority in Arabia? Why aren't the Israelis simply referred to as the 'Jewish Palestinians'? That would be far more accurate than calling them Zionist invaders from elsewhere.

Most Arab Palestinians, just as most Jewish Israelis, are (recent) descendants of immigrants from other countries, and in the case of the Jews, they are descendants of people who lived there (in historical Palestine) thousands of years ago. But this fact doesn't give the Jews title to the land. I'm open minded enough to admit that.

The Palestinians have already been offered more than 80% of historical Palestine (when you take into account, as you must, that Jordan is undeniably part of historical Palestine as well. It's not the Jews' fault that it's not run democratically with full respresentation for Palestinians) and in 2000 were offered enormous concessions by Israel, including the return of nearly all of the territory defensively seized by Israel after the 1967 War of Arab Aggression to destroy Israel. The Palesinians said no and continued their drive to destroy Israel.

The fundamental problem here is that there aren't enough Arabs who truly want peace. Incapable of realizing or even understanding basic concepts of individual freedom, democracy, and human rights, a great majority relentlessly pursue the destruction of Israel, the ethnic cleansing of the evil Jews from the entire Middle East (which has already accomplished in most of their countries) and the creation of the 23rd, of is it the 24th?, pure Arab state in the Middle East.

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