From link Bowser provided:
"Q: And the second question, Ari, today another death has been reported in Iraq, an American soldier. This makes nine in the last few days and 24 wounded. The President, as the Commander-in-Chief, is he worried about this turn of events? It seems to be an unending situation, every day something is happening.
Mr. Fleischer: Well, as the President said on the Abraham Lincoln, there are dangers that remain still in Iraq. There are still battlefields in Iraq. The President declared that the major hostilities are over. He did not say that there was an end to the violence in Iraq, because much of this was foreseeable because there are still enemies inside Iraq who are loyal to Saddam Hussein, who are fighting the coalition. And that's why the coalition is there, dedicated to the mission of achieving security and carrying out their efforts against remaining pockets of resistance."
Davin says:
"What do you expect us to believe, that the white house press secretary does not speak for the exective? That what he says is not the official line of the administration? This is a quibble wrapped up in a quibble wrapped up in a farce."
Obviously by Mr. Fleischer statement was not implying that all combat had ended. Fleischer was referring to the President speech. The Questioner had asked if "the President worried about this turn of events?"
Fleischer was providing evidence that President wasn't worried, but rather had expecting this when he had spoken previously about the war continuing in his speech on the Aircraft carrier, Abraham Lincoln.
What Bowser said: http://www.habitablezone.com/currentevents/messages/319369.html
Titled: "It started on May 1, 2003: GWB declared major hostilities over."
And in this post:
"So, the quagmire started on May 2, 2003, wouldn't you think? The day after GWB declared victory."
From lower in thread Bowser says:
"LarryJ - "The words "major hostilies" never appear in Bush's speech, much less "major hostilities are over."
I didn't say he used those words. You can't find it, because it isn't there. And it was a victory speech."
So obviously Bowser is flat out lying. He said "...GWB declared major hostilities over" in the title of this post. Also notice he has also changed it to "a victory speech". But even this is incorrect. What was actually happenning was the Aircraft carrier crew were returning from the Iraq theater. Their mission was accomplished and they were returning home. Most of these crew after R&R and maintence and resuppy would return to the carrier to do other missions. Every time a carrier of any forward deployed naval vessel returns to home port they have accomplished their mission- whether it's in the Middle East or Asia or wherever. Of course if they are actually in combat- oppose to patrol and/or training then it's "bigger deal". And the fact they were involved in the Gulf War and they performed outstanding work is even more "special". And having the Commander in Chief land in the flight deck, well that's "priceless":)
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