I am proud to say that America has done more good for the world than any other country that has ever existed... when it comes to discoveries in science, technology, and medicine we are outproducing the rest of the world put together... as for WW2 that was the most moral war we ever fought- damn shame we screwed it up by burning and and vaporizing civilians...

You see, Tom- and listen carefully- it is possible to love your country and still point out its mistakes- in fact it is a responsibility in a democracy for each citizen to speak out when they disagree our governments actions...

I see your attention is wandering again, YOU ARE JUST SKIMMING AND SKIPPING OVER MY POINTS... LISTEN UP!!! <SLAP>

When I point out that we are likely heading for disaster in Iraq I am NOT being un-american... The only people that are being un-american are those that call me a traitor for speaking out, you see Tom, I am only speaking against our policies- those that try to suppress such speech are speaking against our constitution...THEY ARE THE REAL TRAITORS...

America has done great things, probably the greatest things... it has also done very evil things- all I am saying that if we are to be great we need to realize those facts... as a rational person you need to realize that... I am one of the people here that really doesnt have a political agenda... I really would be this upset if Gore had done this war...
NOW, Tom would you like to compile a list of nations and their atrocities ... do you have any doubt that the number of nations behind us would greatly outnumber those ahead of us?

I quite frankly think America is the most powerful force in humanity... That is why I think it is important that we do things right, and in my opinion we arent doing it right....

so you can argue the points or you can adhere to a party line...