We won't even enter a rogue city with ground troops.

Tom Brosz — 9/9/2004 2:47:28 AM (archived)

I don't think nukes are anywhere in the picture for the U.S.

I think we've set a pretty high bar for "civilized" warfare, at least compared to all other wars in history. Whether fighting a "sensitive" war actually works as well as defeating your enemy remains to be seen. Good news is we still have quite a bit of support in Iraq, a lot more than we might have had if we'd flattened mosques and cities. Bad news is we aren't getting the bad guys as fast as we need to.

I know what the plan is. The Pentagon has spelled it out. The plan is to have the Iraqis clean up their own mess when they're ready. Politically, this is a great idea. Practically, I'm not sure about it at all.

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Russia ready to strike against terror - Tom Brosz - 9/8/2004 5:41:16 PM
- I re-state my prediction of a blood bath in Chechnya. Russia is not famous for mercy or moderation. (n/t) - David F Mayer - 9/9/2004 5:18:40 PM
- 50-60 thousand troops to Iraq would be a good start. (n/t) - FrankC - 9/8/2004 11:46:57 PM
- Agreed. - Mary Anne - 9/8/2004 11:17:50 PM
  - We won't even enter a rogue city with ground troops. - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2004 2:47:28 AM
    - I meant the Russians. - Mary Anne - 9/9/2004 3:14:25 AM
      - Sorry. Jumped to a conclusion. - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2004 3:33:54 AM
        
        I understand. It happens to me too. - Mary Anne - 9/9/2004 11:56:05 AM
  - Well Russia was the country that gave us Stalin and the Gulags. - Lee - 9/9/2004 2:34:58 AM
- It's called "anarchy". - Bowser - 9/8/2004 6:25:36 PM
- Hope they don't look too closely at northern Idaho... (n/t) - Pollyanna - 9/8/2004 6:21:25 PM
- they're still described as 'militants' by the press - Daniel - 9/8/2004 6:06:06 PM
  - Words do matter. - Mary Anne - 9/9/2004 12:12:02 PM
    - re: Words do matter. - Daniel - 9/9/2004 6:10:51 PM
  - The Euphemism Collection - Tom Brosz - 9/8/2004 8:47:19 PM
    - re: You don't need to refer to them as Muslims. Its a given. Almost every terrorist is Muslim. Its a modern day fact. (n/t) - Scott Evil - 9/9/2004 2:58:54 PM
    - Sort-of like calling all participants in organized crime "Italians". - Mary Anne - 9/8/2004 11:24:19 PM
      - You have gone right off-track with this misinterpretation - Daniel L - 9/9/2004 5:32:11 AM
        
        I was replying to Tom. - Mary Anne - 9/9/2004 11:57:38 AM
        
        As Perry Mason might say, I think I legitimately "opened the door" on that issue with my "Euphemism" post. (n/t) - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2004 5:42:00 AM
        
        Well, it's still been misinterpreted nonetheless - Daniel - 9/9/2004 6:02:26 AM
        
        (I meant - 'this is my post' not 'this is my thread' (n/t) - Daniel - 9/9/2004 5:36:32 AM
      - "criminals", "assailants" or "kidnappers" - FrankC - 9/8/2004 11:57:39 PM
        
        We *are* dealing with crime. - Mary Anne - 9/9/2004 12:15:06 AM
        
        I appreciate your feelings... - FrankC - 9/9/2004 3:50:17 AM
        
        Go ahead, Mary Anne. Call the "cops." - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2004 12:37:48 AM
        
        Oh, for God's sake. - Mary Anne - 9/9/2004 12:58:42 AM
        
        Europe - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2004 2:42:25 AM
        
        Fine. We can have peace if we just blow up enough places. - Mary Anne - 9/9/2004 3:04:35 AM
        
        You got a better idea? Does anyone? - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2004 4:22:48 AM
        
        re: You got a better idea? - Fox - 9/9/2004 9:23:21 PM
        
        I mentioned how: co-ordinated police action. - Mary Anne - 9/9/2004 11:52:41 AM
        
        Perhaps our pre-9/11 vocabulary is insufficient - McFly - 9/9/2004 1:51:30 AM
    - Nor males, nor deeply pigmented humans, nor Arabic-speakers... - alcaray - 9/8/2004 10:55:44 PM
      - I'm Melanin Enhanced & I Don't Mind Extra Security Attention - Mark Eby - 9/9/2004 3:28:15 AM
        
        That is an interesting addition to the discussion (n/t) - alcaray - 9/9/2004 4:31:11 PM
      - Go back to the article Mary Anne linked to before. - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2004 12:26:04 AM
        
        Neo-Muslims - Art Martin - 9/9/2004 6:15:39 PM
        
        I'll spell it out slowly and show you where you made your mistake. - alcaray - 9/9/2004 4:53:38 PM
        
        Okaaaay.... - Mary Anne - 9/9/2004 12:48:30 AM
        
        I hate to say it... - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2004 2:22:45 AM
        
        And which part of the Muslim community are you? - Mary Anne - 9/9/2004 3:12:07 AM
        
        All Muslims are not terrorists. - Tom Brosz - 9/9/2004 5:22:02 AM
        
        Well, thank you for that, anyway. - Mary Anne - 9/9/2004 11:47:31 AM
- re: Good. - Scott Evil - 9/8/2004 5:53:49 PM

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