If we're winning the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people.....

Art Martin — 10/11/2004 10:15:23 PM (archived)

then why in the world aren't they coming to the coalition forces with tips on how to find evil people like al-Zarqawi? Every time that jerk beheads someone, it appears he's got at least 4 or 5 others in his group with him. You start having groups like that and word gets around from the relatives and friends of the terrorists as to their whereabouts and plans. Sure seems to me, as abhorrently violent his bunch is, that some Iraqi would have to have a conscience and feel he needs to be brought to justice if there is this widespread optimism in the citizenry.

I can understand the citizens being hesitant to cooperate if they believe the coalition's chances of winning the peace are slim since they will be targetted once the country falls into chaos but, if what our conservative bunch are saying, that the majority of the country is embracing freedom and democracy, then you'd think that we'd be inundated with good tips on wiping out the insurgent leaders and terrorists. In our own revolution, loyalists were in deep shit, constantly hunted down and harrassed by the average citizen because they saw them as an impediment to liberty and justice.

Since we can't seem to agree on if things are going good or bad in Iraq based on news reports and weblogs, maybe it's that one piece of news that's missing that is truly telling the story.

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If we're winning the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people..... - Art Martin - 10/11/2004 10:15:23 PM
- ?? - Mark Eby - 3/19/2005 10:15:12 PM
  - OOPs Resurrected Thread Alert - Mark Eby - 3/19/2005 10:18:40 PM
- Screw you Art we never liked you much anyway - FrankC - 3/18/2005 6:51:26 AM
  - re:Revealing - Raoul - 3/19/2005 11:14:18 AM
    - re: re:Revealing what? - FrankC - 3/19/2005 6:01:28 PM
      - Interesting definition of "humorless" - Mary Anne - 3/20/2005 5:01:00 PM
        
        :) (n/t) - FrankC - 3/21/2005 2:26:52 AM
        
        I have a 150-tablet bottle of Rolaids next to my computer myself... - Tom Brosz - 3/20/2005 10:34:13 PM
      - Raoul contributes more to the board in a month than you have in all the years you have been here... - .L. - 3/20/2005 3:15:07 AM
      - FrankC getting to be a bitter old man - Lindy - 3/19/2005 6:05:21 PM
        
        If Frank is a bitter old man, then that must make you a crotchety old bitty. - RobVG - 3/19/2005 9:29:00 PM
        
        PS bitter.. - FrankC - 3/19/2005 8:23:31 PM
        
        Alice gets her share - FrankC - 3/19/2005 6:16:03 PM
    - I took it as an attempt to lure Art into conversation in the outside chance he was lurking - SteveS - 3/19/2005 2:44:55 PM
      - not really a lure - FrankC - 3/19/2005 6:13:37 PM
  - Who's the "we'? (n/t) - Lindy - 3/19/2005 8:20:48 AM
    - The owners of the board (n/t) - alcaray - 3/19/2005 3:36:28 PM
  - I had no real problems with him. - Tom Brosz - 3/18/2005 10:26:30 PM
  - You DA MAN, FrankC. DA MAN! - Bowser - 3/18/2005 9:11:20 PM
  - You DA MAN, FrankC. DA MAN! - Bowser - 3/18/2005 9:11:17 PM
  - For a change, a pretty good thread resurrected... - Tom Brosz - 3/18/2005 5:34:04 PM
- What the CIA, Mao and some others say about this. And they all agree. - Bowser - 10/12/2004 2:07:29 PM
  - Guerillas and terrorists - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2004 4:58:39 PM
    - A 500 pound bomb in an urban setting is terrorism. - Bowser - 10/12/2004 5:01:52 PM
      - No, strapping on 10 kilos of plastique and walking onto a bus is terrorism. (n/t) - ebnelson - 10/13/2004 12:43:37 AM
      - No. It isn't. - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2004 5:20:10 PM
        
        Teaching morality in schools - Art Martin - 10/12/2004 6:04:46 PM
        
        The idea that morality is subjective is the core of the entire problem. - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2004 6:41:08 PM
        
        re: The idea that morality is subjective is the core of the entire problem. - Braunwyn - 3/18/2005 5:10:36 AM
        
        re: The idea that morality is subjective is the core of the entire problem. - Art Martin - 10/12/2004 7:15:31 PM
        
        re: morality - Tom Brosz - 10/13/2004 3:59:39 AM
        
        Intent. One knows a 500 pound bomb will kill innocents in an urban setting. (n/t) - Bowser - 10/12/2004 5:51:37 PM
        
        Leaving Zarqawi to run the place isn't healthy for innocents either. - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2004 6:00:45 PM
        
        "But then the Left has always preferred atrocities and the massacres of innocents to be quiet, orderly, and above all, out of view. Stability, you know." - Art Martin - 10/12/2004 6:15:21 PM
        
        re: Nazi - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2004 6:39:33 PM
        
        re: Nazi - Art Martin - 10/12/2004 7:48:59 PM
        
        What's Your Defnition Of A Documentary? - Mark Eby - 10/17/2004 1:57:54 AM
        
        Moore - Tom Brosz - 10/13/2004 4:18:12 AM
- Almost all of our target information comes from Iraqis. - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2004 3:18:50 AM
  - Source that. - Bowser - 10/12/2004 5:18:07 AM
    - ??2 - Mark Eby - 3/19/2005 10:16:54 PM
- Where Do You Think We Keep Getting Target Info From? - Mark Eby - 10/12/2004 2:20:16 AM
  - and what percentage of that target info has proven false? - Art Martin - 10/12/2004 3:41:58 PM
    - re: and what percentage of that target info has proven false? - Mark Eby - 10/13/2004 2:31:19 AM
      - good points....but - Art Martin - 10/13/2004 3:49:40 PM
        
        How about giving away the advantage of our tactics by exposing them? (n/t) - idiot detector - 10/17/2004 3:04:22 PM
        
        re: good points....but - gbaikie - 10/17/2004 2:46:02 AM
        
        Great Points - Mark Eby - 10/17/2004 1:53:54 AM
    - Who knows? - Tom Brosz - 10/12/2004 5:35:34 PM
      - re: Who knows? - Art Martin - 10/12/2004 6:52:40 PM
        
        Uphill battle - Tom Brosz - 10/13/2004 4:28:33 AM
        
        The Fault With Your Logic & Analogy - Mark Eby - 10/13/2004 2:37:59 AM
        
        re: Who knows? (n/t) - (anonymous) - 10/13/2004 2:33:31 AM
        
        My Glitch, Please Delete Robert. (n/t) - Mark Eby - 10/13/2004 2:38:51 AM
        
        Why delete Robert? (n/t) - (what did HE do?) - 10/14/2004 10:37:48 AM
        
        re: Who knows? (n/t) - (anonymous) - 10/13/2004 2:33:29 AM
        
        re: Who knows? (n/t) - (anonymous) - 10/13/2004 2:33:26 AM
        
        re: Who knows? (n/t) - (anonymous) - 10/13/2004 2:33:24 AM
  - Too bad it's not good data, isn't it? - Bowser - 10/12/2004 3:19:23 AM
    - Would You Please Look Up The Definition Of Terrorism - Mark Eby - 10/13/2004 2:27:38 AM
- Perhaps you are really responding to agenda driven enws reporting? - ebnelson - 10/12/2004 12:40:24 AM

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